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How Does a Person Become a Catholic? [Ecumenical]
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Posted on 01/26/2009 5:35:29 PM PST by Salvation

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To: Jaded

It is still a sacrament of the Church, but you are correct that the married couple themselves are the ministers of it.


61 posted on 01/27/2009 10:35:18 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: GrouchoTex

I’m puzzled by your saying that a decision of the Catholic Church is a state by state decision.

Did you mean case by individual case decision?

All countries, all states abide by the same Catholic Church laws.

Another thought — Don’t God’s laws come before any human’s laws?


62 posted on 01/27/2009 6:31:39 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Jaded

** but a covenant between a man and a woman.**

and put God into that mix too!


63 posted on 01/27/2009 6:35:31 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: tiki

Question: Is this ignorance or truth? Just curious.
http://www.therain.org/appendixes/app162.html


64 posted on 01/28/2009 5:08:51 AM PST by genetic homophobe ("I readily concede I chucked aside my free-market principles..." defend that)
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To: Salvation

No, I was making a point someone else threw at me about the children of annulled marriages.

Anyway, I appreciate all the feedback and I am not Anti-Catholic by any means. My Mother grew up Catholic (she died when I was 8)which prompted my journey to the Catholic Church in the first place. She was not allowed to partake in the sacrements by marrying my Father, who was not (think it’s tough now? Try this in the 1940’s). She ended up at a non-denominational church before she died.

After she died, my Father married a Catholic woman, which also put them in the same predicament I find myself in (she was divorced).

I just found the annulment stumbling block to be too difficult to overcome.

My current wife, no. 2, who has been a christian a lot longer than I, has extreme reservations about having her 1st marriage annulled, due to having 2 children (now grown) during that marriage. Wife no. 1, with whom I had 1 grown child, ain’t too keen on it either.

So they won’t comply, and I have to admet, they raise a lot more questions than I can get answers for, so for now I’ll stay a Christian, who is not a member of the Catholic Church.

God Bless Y’all.


65 posted on 01/28/2009 3:32:10 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: Mad Dawg

Biscuits with smear gravy?


66 posted on 01/28/2009 3:43:50 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: GrouchoTex

Okay “Smear gravy” is new to me. I learned my redneck in Mississippi and Virginia, so I guess I’m jus’ ignorant.


67 posted on 01/28/2009 6:15:21 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

It’s just plain ol’ white gravy, but a Texan friend of mine says his family made a distinction.

White gravy was “smear” gravy. (Why? I ain’t exactly sure.)

Brown gravy (like at Thanksgiving) was brown gravy, strangely enough.

Favorite Texas saying:

“Yesterday, It was so hot, I saw 2 trees fighting over a dog!”

I’ve just called it “Biscuits and Gravy” and it’s worked out fine. I’m not sure if I could walk into the local Lone Star Cafe and ask them for “Biscuits and Smear gravy”. They’d probably just stare.

Of course, I get that a lot anyway.........


68 posted on 01/29/2009 5:56:20 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: GrouchoTex
Okay. This is interesting. My deep dark secret is that I was brought up on Long Island, NY. Which means Yiddish has been in the air since my youth. It's common probably still today in parts of New York to hear someone ask for a "bagel mit schmeer"= a bagel with cream cheese.

Now schmeer really means "grease" (as a noun or a verb) or fat, and, like a lot of Yiddish, it comes from German roots, which I'd guess also account for our "smear" which is what one can do with greasy things.

AND I know a there are a lot of German descent folk in Texas.

SO I'd bet it was a German influence in there somewhere, either familial or just in the "neighborhood" that led to "smear gravy".

Thanks. Another useless speculation with which to clutter up the cranium.

69 posted on 01/29/2009 7:02:11 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Wow, that’s funny!

A kid I knew in High School used to call
bagels with cream cheese smear bagels! In fact, it was at his house I had my first bagel with cream cheese.
I never put the 2 together but that makes sense.

There are a LOT of German and Czech immigrants here, and that could very well be the reason “Smear Gravy” got it’s name.

Why not?


70 posted on 01/29/2009 7:12:51 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: GrouchoTex

As the general knowledge of mankind advances one useless millimeter ....


71 posted on 01/30/2009 5:54:31 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Salvation

finally have some “down” time to start my research.

thanks so very much

enjoy this Easter!


72 posted on 04/11/2009 5:01:06 AM PDT by Abundy
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