If You Are Contracepting, You Are Part of A Very Big Problem

Madrid Blogspot ^ | January 27, 2009 | Patrick Madrid

[steve-b]

“Too many” of anything is by definition a curse. Duh.

[Citizen Blade]

One who accepts such a doctrine and uses artificial contraception says, in effect, "Life is bad. Children are a nuisance. Too many children are a curse."

Your argument falls apart because it is based on the assumption that people who use contraception are typically interested in not having any children. But that's not the case- typically, contraception is used to put off having children until later in life. The aforementioned college girl wants to be able to have sex without getting pregnant at 21, since she is incapable and unwilling to raise a child at that age. She wants to wait until she's older, married, has finished her education and has some financial stability before she has kids. That is the path typically taken by people who want some success in life.

What you consider "wicked" most people consider "responsibility." We have enough kids being born in our society to mothers who are unprepared and incompetent to take care of them.

[steve-b]

I resent no one except those who attempt to misrepresent my views.

projection (pr& JEK sh&n): the tendency to ascribe to another person feelings, thoughts, or attitudes present in oneself

[steve-b]

She wants to wait until she's older, married, has finished her education

I do believe that you've identified the real issue here. At least Antoninus hasn't taken to vitriol-throwing....

[Citizen Blade]

I do believe that you've identified the real issue here.

I'm not sure I follow what you're trying to say.

[Antoninus]

The aforementioned college girl wants to be able to have sex without getting pregnant at 21, since she is incapable and unwilling to raise a child at that age.

What do you call someone who wants it all but is unwilling to accept the natural consequences of their actions? Most young men and women who choose this "rational" lifestyle bring a lot more than a dowry to their wedding. STDs, emotional baggage, lunatic ex-boyfriends, and a pathological misunderstanding of the purpose of sexual intercourse. And then people wonder why there is so much divorce in our culture, that too being a "rational" lifestyle choice when things go bad.

She wants to wait until she's older, married, has finished her education and has some financial stability before she has kids. That is the path typically taken by people who want some success in life.

Engaging in pre-marital sex in no way enhances one's ability to finish an education or achieve financial stability. In fact, it's a major hindrance. Were your argument intellectually honest, you would acknowledge that obvious fact.

A truly responsible, rational person abstains from intercourse until they are ready and able to accept the natural consequences of the act.

[Citizen Blade]

What do you call someone who wants it all but is unwilling to accept the natural consequences of their actions?

I guess we should stop using seat belts when we drive and football players should stop wearing protective pads when playing. After all, who are we to ameliorate the natural consequences of a car accident or impact by a 300 pound lineman?

Most young men and women who choose this "rational" lifestyle bring a lot more than a dowry to their wedding. STDs, emotional baggage, lunatic ex-boyfriends, and a pathological misunderstanding of the purpose of sexual intercourse.

Most? Nonsense. It's just sex- there's no need to be scared of it. Most people can handle their sex lives just fine.

Engaging in pre-marital sex in no way enhances one's ability to finish an education or achieve financial stability.

Perhaps. But avoiding pregnancy does.

In fact, it's a major hindrance.

Really? I guess someone needs to tell that to my educated, married and financial succesful friends that their pre-marital sex doomed them to a life of poverty and ignorance. I'm sure they'll give that "fact" the consideration it is due.

A truly responsible, rational person abstains from intercourse until they are ready and able to accept the natural consequences of the act.

Or, they simply take the necessary steps to prevent pregnancy from occurring. Works just as well.

[steve-b]

I guess we should stop using seat belts when we drive and football players should stop wearing protective pads when playing. After all, who are we to ameliorate the natural consequences of a car accident or impact by a 300 pound lineman?

Antoninus' argument leads to the conclusion that people should not drive or play football, thereby avoiding such undesired natural consequences.

[cowtowney]

“A truly responsible, rational person abstains from intercourse until they are ready and able to accept the natural consequences of the act.”

I agree. Thanks

[steve-b]

A Texan endorsing the argument that people should give up cars and football? Better not let the neighbors know....

[cowtowney]

“A Texan endorsing the argument that people should give up cars and football? Better not let the neighbors know....”

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Seems a lot of others on here don’t either.

[steve-b]

Anyone with a grade-school knowledge of English can follow Msg#147-148.

[dbz77]

Maybe some movie producer ought to produce a film about teenage pregnancy and childbirth that downplays the downsides of teen motherhead.

Maybe Jamie Lynn-spears ought to be a role model for girls entering puberty.