Skip to comments.If You Are Contracepting, You Are Part of A Very Big Problem
Posted on 01/27/2009 11:06:53 AM PST by NYer
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Not quite sure I get where you’re going. It’s hard to read the family tree, but it looks like Clevon had eleven kids by four wives and Clevon Junior has four kids by four wives. I take it Clevon hasn’t found a job yet. Is that Clevon Junior next to him or the doctor that delivered some of the kids?
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Absolutely! This happened to someone I know. They (docs) sold it as palliative care, but that was not true. It was euthanasia. Scary! V’s wife.
Sorry to hear it ventana. They use fancy names - another one is Compassionate Care. Kinda like the commies who became marxists, progressives etc. They’re slick. The name of the Eugenics Society has also changed over the years. We need to watch these murderers very closely and share our experiences with the public.
Beg to differ. I’m simply trying to avoid debt and make responsible choices.
It's accurate, whether you like it or not.
more like, "Voluntarily sterilize themselves so they can more easily behave like sexual animals."
Pointlessly hyperbolic rhetoric doesn't help you make your point.
An unmarried woman who wants to have sex with her boyfriend without the fear of getting pregnant isn't acting like some "sexual animal." She's making a rational life choice to put off child-bearing until she is ready. If your assumption is that everyone who uses contraception is promiscuous, you are incorrect.
You haven't paid into social security? Well, I sure have. A huge chunk is taken out of every paycheck I've received since I started working.
Whenever these issues are discussed, I’m a bit dismayed by the apparent class envy simmering just below the surface. Your comment about beemers and college tuition trumping having children seems an example of that.
We freepers like folks with money when they are viewed through the job creation lens. But when we look at their private lives, with things being more important than kids, we turn on those very same people.
My profile: 3 kids, more house than I need, but not more than I can afford. Strong desire for each of the kids to leave college debt free (2 down 1 to go). Could I have afforded more kids? Sure. But I am not ashamed at all to say that I like having a couple of extra nickles to rub together, and that having more kids would have had an impact on my ability to rub those nickels together.
And that is wrong why, exactly?
And a society that promotes immoral behavior as 'a rational choice' will also come to a bad end.
You're assuming what you still have to prove- namely, that contraceptive use is immoral.
“Beg to differ. Im simply trying to avoid debt and make responsible choices”
I was not referring to you personally but to your so called upper class
At the moment, I’m unemployed and part of the underclass.
“Whenever these issues are discussed, Im a bit dismayed by the apparent class envy simmering just below the surface. Your comment about beemers and college tuition trumping having children seems an example of that.”
Let me explain
Niuhuru said “I find that interesting considering the underclass is breeding like rabbits.”
This is a snotty comment...as if the so called ‘underclass’ has no right to reproduce.
It’s not the problem with one class overproducing; they are doing the right thing. The upperclass is not producing enough.
I don’t care how much money people have. I’m a capitalist.
Whatever the reason, we’re not having enough babies. Your particular situation is not the point. It’s the demographics of our nation that is going down the drain.
You followed your upperclass breeding comment with your own snotty comment about beemers and tuition payments. As if the upperclass has no right to spend their money on beemers and tuition payments.
You may not care how much money people have, but you do seem mighty concerned with how they spend it, if they are not spending it on stuff you deem important.
Do you think they'd have passed such hare-brained laws if most USA families were large and, well, voted large? I don't.
I am tired of the "cost of living is too expensive for kids" argument. I will admit, however, that fewer and fewer people seem to have the temperament to be around children. They see them as noisy wastes of time. Seems to be rooted in selfishness - and no, it was a bygone generation that thought "children should be seen and not heard." Yet that generation bred quite capably - they just knew not to treat children like little celebrities.
I am also tired of religous Christians gushing "children are a gift from God - life is so precious!" and then doing all they can to have micro-families.
This is the formula for death by democracy - the culture that created the Constitution will be replaced by a culture that does not give a damn about it, and it will be coup by ballot box. So long Western values - and by the way - so long capitalism. Cast your eyes to Africa to see what happens.
There’s a reason I put a sarcasm tag at the end of that comment.
still, I felt the need to grab the topic and run with it a stretch - no personal slight intended.
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