Posted on 03/18/2009 4:12:59 AM PDT by Colofornian
It's been an unusual few weeks where LDS beliefs on a variety of topics have emerged in the news. These include the value of missionary work on young men's maturity, service, fasting, happiness and stem cell research. Perhaps this is good news...
There have been a number of recent stories about where different religions stand on stem cell research. Mormons, particularly, Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, have been the focus of news stories about how religious beliefs define the issue. This comes as members of the Georgia legislature are considering a measure that would define "a living in vitro human embryo is a biological human being." Atlanta Journal-Constitution columnist Jay Bookman wrote:
"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints likewise takes no definitive view of when the embryo or fetus acquires a soul, although some Mormons set it at the moment the embryo attaches itself to the womb. That explains why U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, ordinarily a strong social conservative, can also be a strong advocate of embryonic stem-cell research. "
(Excerpt) Read more at mormontimes.com ...
I said that you said that you chose to do something you say is wrong to do.
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When did I say that ???
All the posts...not just pick and choose to back up your accusation...
Very interesting. A friend of mine was threatened with disfellowship about 15 years ago because he decided to have surgery for Parkinson’s disease that involved embryonic stem cells. His bishop said that the use of embryonic stem cells was against the LDS faith. He asked me for my opinion since he really wanted to try the surgery (and was a good candidate) but didn’t want to go against the Church.
This is just an updated version of what I use to hear from LDS a while back.
"What's the official position on this or that?" I'd ask.
The response would be that I could get the "official" LDS response from the church.
"Well, this is what LDS leader XYZ has said on this subject. Don't you believe him?"
"No, that's not what we teach."
"Well, what do you teach then?"
"Well, that's not what we teach." (I would have to get the 'official' teaching on that from 'official Mormondom')
When did I say that ???
All the posts...not just pick and choose to back up your accusation...
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I do not have time to do this, but I think I must.
I asked you if you believed that being disrespectful would help you make your case, and you reply was to tell me that Joseph Smith was also disrespectful.
You have also said that you think that Joseph Smith had never done anything good.
Conclusion, You are disrespectful and you think Joseph Smith was also disrespectful, Since you say that Brother Joseph's actions were bad, you must also think that when you act like he did, you too are bad.
Unless you think it is alright for you to do that which you believe is bad for others to do.
Demanding that I bow down to Joey Smith doesnt equate that ???
Wheres the respect for Emma Smith, the wronged wife ???
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Again, directed questions that point the readers attention from what I really said.
Again, directed questions that point the readers attention from what I really said.
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Did I do that ????
WOW, thanks...
Praise indeed...
:)
But I cant take sole credit for that..
You see, it’s like this, Grasshopper...
I had lots of “preparation” by mormons in these threads before mormons in these threads taught me how to do that..
placemarker in focus
Very funny TN.
I was all wound up after reading up through the thread, thinking of a very serious reply to the nonsense about the Council of Nicaea. I'm glad a read your post before I posted.
Your comment was just the right thing.
Yes colorcountry, I too think how ironic that is.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Since Joe Smith did NOT 'source' his wild rant about PRESBYTERIANism being UNTRUE; his followers are merely emulating the Great Man.
Why should we CHRISTIANS expect or demand the LDS Organization members do more than they are capable of doing?
My 'idea' of the LDS' 'teachings' are that they are contradictory, unsourced for the main, demonically inspired as described by the BIBLE and smugly self-assured that the things they teach are the ONLY things that are right.
Is that good enough for you; or do I need to 'study' more?
It's kinda like counterfeit money.
When you are excepted to intercept it at the cash register - you do NOT study all the various fakes that have been made over the years; your study what REAL money is like.
THEN when the false shows up, SOMEthing about it will trigger a remembrance of the REAL stuff and you reject the phony.
If one knows TRUE Biblical principals and teachings - the subtly packaged false stuff just doesn't ring true.
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You do not need to misrepresent our teachings and/or our history to talk about the differences.
My ‘idea’ of the LDS’ ‘teachings’ are that they are contradictory, unsourced for the main, demonically inspired as described by the BIBLE and smugly self-assured that the things they teach are the ONLY things that are right.
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Very well put
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You keep trying to mis direct the reader by not, at least, saying that even though you do not believe it, Joseph Smith says he was repeating what the Lord said to him.
And again, thank you for the many times you remind readers about how Jesus taught that He still uses Prophets in these days.
It’s kinda like counterfeit money.
When you are excepted to intercept it at the cash register - you do NOT study all the various fakes that have been made over the years; your study what REAL money is like.
THEN when the false shows up, SOMEthing about it will trigger a remembrance of the REAL stuff and you reject the phony.
If one knows TRUE Biblical principals and teachings - the subtly packaged false stuff just doesn’t ring true.
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This fits the false doctrines of mormonism to a T...
Glad I could help..
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MORMONism has already done that:
According to Scripture; he did not:
KJV John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
KJV 1 John 4:12
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
Even Smith described them as Personages - strange language, in my opinion.
The disciples asked...
NIV John 14:8-9
8. Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
9. Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, `Show us the Father'?
KJV John 14:8-9
8. Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9. Jesus saith unto him, have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
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