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Smithsonian Institution Statement Regarding the Book of Mormon
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Posted on 03/19/2009 1:58:13 PM PDT by colorcountry

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To: sevenbak

Where did the stone box atop Cumorah go?


21 posted on 03/19/2009 2:22:56 PM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: colorcountry

Evidences are not the same as science. Neither does the secular world view evidences the same as the faithful.

Christians and Jews worldwide who believe the scriptures and their very unscientific claims of faith promoting stories of Noah, Adam, Moses parting the Red Sea, etc would take great care to take anything an accepted scientific body said about their faith.

When the Smithsonian decides to exhibit a display on Joshua turning back the sun, or Jesus turning water into wine, will you please post that for us.

Thanks


22 posted on 03/19/2009 2:23:43 PM PDT by sevenbak (The natural man receiveth not things of the Spirit of God: they are foolishness unto him-1 Cor. 2:14)
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To: sevenbak

But the Smithsonian would (I assume) accept the fact of the nation of Israel in the land of Canaan, the presence of a temple in Jerusalem, the existence of a Jewish presence, etc etc.

I would assume, yes, that they would reject the miraculous claims of the Bible, but they’d accept the non-miraculous history of the Bible.

I’m not asking you to become an atheist, just to become a Biblical Christian by dropping the things that have deceived you, and to receive the True Jesus.

“For by grace you are saved through faith,
and that not of yourselves,
it is the gift of God,
not of works, lest any man should boast.”


23 posted on 03/19/2009 2:24:47 PM PDT by fishtank (Until the GOP repents of supporting Bush, people will think they're just "bashing 0bama".)
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To: colorcountry

There are at least 3 accounts as to it’s history and multiple eyewitnesses. Google is your friend.


24 posted on 03/19/2009 2:25:05 PM PDT by sevenbak (The natural man receiveth not things of the Spirit of God: they are foolishness unto him-1 Cor. 2:14)
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To: colorcountry
It is interesting that they want to tout ‘evidence’ but they simply can’t allow any discussion by dissenters to take place.

"They" are like jurors that have their eyes covered and their ears plugged.....

25 posted on 03/19/2009 2:25:07 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: colorcountry

See my post 23.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2210200/posts?page=23#23

The Smithsonian would accept the __non-miraculous__ from the Bible, but they won’t accept a single thing from the BOM.


26 posted on 03/19/2009 2:26:50 PM PDT by fishtank (Until the GOP repents of supporting Bush, people will think they're just "bashing 0bama".)
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To: sevenbak

The are plenty of Biblical evidences that the Smithsonian has published and when there is new evidence of such, then I fully expect the Smithsonian to publish it.

However it is you Mormons who are trying to “prove” the Book of Mormon using non-existent archaelogical evidences. There is none, nada, not one thing. All you people can site is parallel evidences - no evidence at all!


27 posted on 03/19/2009 2:27:38 PM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: sevenbak; colorcountry
The Smithsonian institute doesn't accept the illogical claim of Noah's flood, the preposterous concept of the resurrection of Christ, the reality of Angelic messengers, etc. If I want to put my trust in the arm of flesh, and believe everything science tells me, then I'd be no different than the majority of this secular world.

7, you've just posted the arm of man in another thread. The smithsonian and like scientific institutions are making a very simple and clear statement that your arm is not substantated. However, the Smithsonian does recognize the bible as an accurate historical document and has valid archeology to back it up. You arm is looking very weak 7.

28 posted on 03/19/2009 2:27:49 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
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To: fishtank

Thanks for your concern, but I know in whom I have trusted, and it’s not in the arm of flesh. It is in the grace and power of my Savior, even Jesus Christ my Lord.

You worship him according to your own conscience, I will do the same.

That’s enough sandbox playing for me, enjoy yourselves.


29 posted on 03/19/2009 2:28:17 PM PDT by sevenbak (The natural man receiveth not things of the Spirit of God: they are foolishness unto him-1 Cor. 2:14)
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To: sevenbak

So where is it?


30 posted on 03/19/2009 2:28:36 PM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: fishtank

Very good, your post #23!


31 posted on 03/19/2009 2:29:01 PM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: colorcountry; sevenbak

THE BIBLE AS HISTORY. The Smithsonian’s Department of Anthropology has received ... following statement has been prepared to answer these questions: ...

http://csnradio.com/tema/misc/SmithsonianLetter.pdf


32 posted on 03/19/2009 2:34:22 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
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To: Godzilla; sevenbak

Thanks - very interesting information that the members of the LDS Church should become familiar with. Then perhaps they would quit sounding like they’ve only ever examined one side of this story.


33 posted on 03/19/2009 2:37:20 PM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: Goldsborough

yuppers


34 posted on 03/19/2009 2:40:39 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: colorcountry; sevenbak
I can handle their questioning of the spiritual side of the bible (or bom for that matter). But the Bible as history has been shown over and over again. So they show some gold plates with images of people and animals with very little text and call that proof for the bom. LOL, those plates are no where close to being historical records the bom claims to be.

The text and especially the images indicate the book was made for the funeral of an aristocrat who was an adept of the Orpheus cult.

35 posted on 03/19/2009 2:43:52 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
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To: sevenbak

Noah and the red Sea parting are not stated as science, but as miracles, while the BOM plainly states that civilizations existed here that had Jews in them.

Zero evidence for and more evidence against


36 posted on 03/19/2009 2:46:26 PM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: Godzilla
Metallurgy with inscriptions was very common in the ancient world. Mostly on coins, and was most certainly known in Joseph Smith's day

I really don't see how Mormons try to use this as evidence for the BOM

37 posted on 03/19/2009 2:49:27 PM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: colorcountry
I really don't see how Mormons try to use this as evidence for the BOM

Its called grasping at straws in an attempt to defeat an initial arguement against the bom waged in the 1800's.

38 posted on 03/19/2009 2:56:59 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
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To: sevenbak

Whether it was parted or not, I can still swim in the Red Sea.

However I cannot walk the historic ruins of the Nephites...

A minor but very ptovocative difference...


39 posted on 03/19/2009 3:14:30 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: colorcountry; sevenbak
From the article: The Smithsonian Institution has never used the Book of Mormon in any way as a scientific guide

Hey, nevermind it being a scientific guide...why can't it even serve as a geographic guide...like a rough descriptor even of its continental neighborhood???

Why hasn't the Book of Mormon editors (and it's been edited thousands of times, mostly for grammar clean-up) placed "Book of Mormon maps" in the back -- like many Bibles do?

40 posted on 03/19/2009 3:27:54 PM PDT by Colofornian
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