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Bishop Doran: Notre Dame Should Consider Changing Name to "Humanist University"
LifeSiteNews.com -- Your Family, Life and Culture Outpost ^ | April 2, 2009

Posted on 04/02/2009 12:51:20 PM PDT by topher

Thursday April 2, 2009


Bishop Doran: Notre Dame Should Consider Changing Name to "Humanist University"

15 bishops total have so far protested the Notre Dame scandal

By John Jalsevac

April 2, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Two more bishops have joined the chorus of Catholics and fellow bishops protesting the decision of the Catholic University of Notre Dame to invite President Barack Obama to be this year's commencement speaker and to receive an honorary doctorate.

Bishop Thomas Doran of the Rockford, Illinois diocese, and Archbishop Eusebius Beltran of the Oklahoma City Diocese have both made public their disapproval of the university's decision, with Bishop Doran suggesting that the university should change its name to the "Northwestern Indiana Humanist University."

Bishop Doran recently provided The Cardinal Newman Society with a copy of a letter he sent to University of Notre Dame President Father John Jenkins expressing his "dismay and outrage" at the decision to honor President Obama. (To read the complete letter, see: http://www.cardinalnewmansociety.org/CardinalNewmanSociety/tabid/36/ctl/Details/mid/488/ItemID/469/Default.aspx)

Bishop Doran wrote that Fr. Jenkins should rescind the invitation "and so avoid dishonoring the practicing Catholics of the United States, including those of this Diocese."

"This decision of your flies in the face of the expressed directive of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops in the year 2004, that Catholic institutions not so honor those who profess opposition to the Church's doctrine on abortion and embryonic stem cell research," he said.

In a separate letter to The Cardinal Newman Society, the bishop indicated that he has advised the people of the Rockford diocese how to make their own sentiments on the matter known to the authorities at Notre Dame.

The bishop suggested that if Fr. Jenkins fails to rescind "this unfortunate decision" he should have the "decency" to change the university name to something like, "The Fighting Irish College" or "Northwestern Indiana Humanist University."

"On behalf of our more than 20,000 members and the nearly one quarter of a million signers of the petition opposing Notre Dame's actions, I want to thank Bishop Doran for his strong public witness and letter encouraging Fr. Jenkins to rescind the commencement invite to President Obama," said CNS President Patrick Reilly.

Bishop Beltran of Oklahoma City, in a statement published on NewsOK, said, "President Obama, by word and action, has approved of abortion and other atrocities against human life. Therefore he deserves no recognition at a Catholic institution." According to NewsOK the bishop said that more comprehensive remarks by him on the issue would be published in the April 5 edition of the Sooner Catholic, the archdiocese's official newspaper.

A petition launched by the Cardinal Newman Society on the same day that it was announced that Obama had accepted the invitation to speak at the university has been signed by over 230,000 individuals. (To sign the petition: www.notredamescandal.com)


The bishops who have so far gone public with their disapproval of Notre Dame's invitation of Obama (in alphabetical order) are:

1) Bishop John D'Arcy - Fort Wayne-South Bend
2) Bishop Gregory Aymond - Austin A
3) Bishop Eusebius Beltran - Oklahoma City
4) Cardinal Daniel DiNardo - Houston
5) Archbishop Timothy Dolan - New York
6) Bishop Thomas Doran - Rockford
7) Cardinal Francis George - Chicago, President, USCCB
8) Bishop Robert Lynch - St. Petersburg
9) Bishop Charles Morlino - Madison
10) Archbishop John J. Myers - Newark
11) Bishop R. Walker Nickless - Sioux City.
12) Archbishop John C. Nienstedt - Paul and Minneapolis, Minnesota
13) Bishop Thomas Olmsted - Phoneix
14) Bishop Kevin Rhoades - Harrisburg
15) Reverend Edward J. Slattery, Tulsa


See related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:

Notre Dame's Bishop Will Not Attend Obama-Honoring Graduation, Criticizes University's Decision
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/mar/09032408.html

Notre Dame Faces Groundswell of Outrage after Announcing Plan to Honor Obama
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/mar/09032312.html

Notre Dame President: School "Honored" by Obama's Acceptance to Speak and Receive Honorary Degree
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/mar/09032306.html

Catholic Notre Dame University to Give Obama Honorary Degree on May 17, Against USCCB Policy
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/mar/09032005.html

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TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: abortion; frjenkins; notredame; notredamescandal; obama
Maybe Notre Dame University should hire heretic Dan McGuire as a Theology professor...

It is in keeping with their current direction...

1 posted on 04/02/2009 12:51:20 PM PDT by topher
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To: Salvation
Cardinal Rigali is not on LifeSiteNews list (yet).

I have not found that he is one of the ones that has spoken out so far. What is your source?

2 posted on 04/02/2009 12:52:58 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher
Heretic Professor Dan McGuire of Marquette would fit in well with Father Jenkins and the current direction of Notre Dame... More on the Heretical views of Dan McGuire (former priest) below...

More on HERETIC professor of Theology Dan McGuire and his two pamphlets he sent to US Bishops (response by USCCB):

 

Statement Concerning Two Pamphlets

Published by Professor Daniel Maguire
Committee on Doctrine
United States Conference of Catholic Bishops


The document Statement Concerning Two Pamphlets Published by Professor Daniel Maguire was developed by the Committee on Doctrine of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB).  It was approved by the Administrative Committee of the USCCB at its March 2007 meeting as a statement of the Committee and has been authorized for publication by the undersigned.

Msgr. David J. Malloy, STD
General Secretary, USCCB

On June 19, 2006, Professor Daniel Maguire of Marquette University sent two pamphlets to all of the Catholic Bishops in the United States, one entitled The Moderate Roman Catholic Position on Contraception and Abortion and the other A Catholic Defense of Same-Sex Marriage.  These pamphlets do not present Catholic teaching.  His views about contraception, abortion, same sex "marriage", as well as the very nature of Church teaching and its authoritative character, cross the legitimate lines of theological reflection and simply enter into the area of false teaching.  Such mistaken views should not be confused with the faith and moral teaching of the Catholic Church.  Since it is apparent that considerable efforts have been made to give these views the widest possible distribution as if they were a valid alternative to the teaching of the Catholic Church, the Committee on Doctrine of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops considers it important to offer a public correction of the erroneous views proposed in these pamphlets.  At the same time, the Committee on Doctrine calls attention to the Catechism of the Catholic Church where correct and authentic teaching can be found.  This readily available source of the faith and moral teaching of the Catholic Church clearly demonstrates the mistaken character of the positions found in the two pamphlets and their unreliability as a guide for Catholics seeking to know and live their Catholic faith.

Church Teaching

The fundamental error in these pamphlets concerns the nature of Church teaching.  In the first pamphlet Professor Maguire argues that there is "no one position on contraception and abortion" that can be called "Catholic," and thus that there is no authentic Church teaching that is binding on all the members of the Catholic Church.[1]  He argues that there is the "extremely conservative view," held by conservative theologians and by the Pope and the bishops, a position that opposes contraception and abortion, as well as the "moderate and sensible view," held by other theologians, which endorses contraception and abortion, at least under certain circumstances.[2]   He concludes that "the Roman Catholic position on abortion is pluralistic.  It has a strong 'pro-choice' tradition and a conservative anti-choice tradition.  Neither is official, and neither is more Catholic than the other."[3]

In the second pamphlet Professor Maguire argues that there is no one position that can be called "Catholic" concerning the morality of homosexual acts and same-sex "marriages."  "In Catholicism" he writes, "there are three sources of truth, (or three 'magisteria'): the hierarchy, the theologians, and the wisdom and experience of the laity (called in Latin sensus fidelium)."[4]  Because there is, according to Professor Maguire, no consensus at this time among these "three sources of truth," he concludes that "Catholic teaching is in transition on this subject and Catholics are free to let their consciences decide either for or against same sex marriages.  Both views — for or against homosexual marriage — are at home in the Catholic world and neither one of them can be called more orthodox or more official or more Catholic than the other."[5]

From the earliest days of the Church, it has been clear that the bishops have a unique role in passing on the faith and applying the teaching of Christ to the circumstances of the day.  Catholic teaching is authenticated by the Church's teaching office that mirrors and transmits the revelation of Christ under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.  While there may be individuals who disagree with the teaching of the Church, such divergent views cannot be considered authentic Catholic teaching or the basis for reliable guidance regarding faithful Catholic moral life.  It is a serious error, therefore, to claim that the teaching of the Pope and the bishops represents merely one voice among many legitimate voices within the Catholic Church, all of which are vying to be heard and accepted.  The bishops are the successors of the apostles, who were given the authority to proclaim the teaching of Jesus Christ.[6]  Jesus himself commissioned the apostles to preach the Gospel in his name.[7]  The apostles in turn appointed trusted men to succeed them in this ministry.  These successors, the bishops, have thus been authorized to preach and teach in the name of Christ himself.[8]  The bishops, therefore, have a responsibility to foster among the faithful those actions that promote holiness and are in accord with the Gospel as well as a duty to condemn those actions which are evil and so are incompatible with living a holy life.[9]     

Thus, when the bishops together with the head of the college of bishops, the Pope, invoke the authority given to them by Christ to proclaim that one moral position is correct and another erroneous, this teaching is binding in conscience on all who hold the Catholic faith.  It is not one of many possible "Catholic" positions proposed by and debated among various theologians.[10]  There is but one Gospel of salvation which has been revealed by our Lord Jesus Christ and which continues to be authoritatively taught within the Catholic Church.  Laity and clergy embody and express the sense of the faith precisely when they conform their consciences to what the Church authentically professes and teaches.[11]  Therefore, it is illegitimate to set in opposition the belief of some of the faithful and the teaching of the bishops and the Pope. Professor Maguire misrepresents the nature of the relationship between bishops and theologians.  The reality is that "the Church cannot exist without the office of bishop nor thrive without the sound scholarship of the theologian.  Bishops and theologians are in a collaborative relationship."[12]  While theologians, along with the rest of the faithful, receive from the bishops the authentic teaching passed down from the apostles, the theologians study that teaching in order to come to a deeper and more systematic understanding, which benefits the bishops and the whole Church.  Thus, both bishops and theologians teach, but they do so in different ways.  They have different gifts and functions, but they have the same goal: "preserving the People of God in the truth which sets free and thereby making them 'a light to the nations.'"[13]  Professor Maguire's conception of the role of the theologian, instead of elevating it, actually diminishes it, for it prevents the theologian from serving this goal.    

Contraception, Abortion and Same-sex "Marriage"

While this is not the place for an exhaustive treatment of Church teaching on these important issues, we would like to give a brief account of that teaching and to indicate some sources where more complete presentations may be found.

Contraception

According to Professor Maguire, a minority of "conservative" Catholic theologians, along with the Pope and the bishops, argues that contraception is morally wrong; at the same time "there exists in the Roman Catholic tradition and faith the view that contraception is not only permissible but that the use of contraceptives is morally mandatory in many situations."[14]  In his view, since the theologians and the bishops are all equally authorities and these authorities do not agree, the individual would be free to follow the opinion that least restricts one's freedom of action.[15]  What Professor Maguire does not report is the fact that Pope Paul VI entered into a thorough study of this issue precisely in order to produce a definitive judgment that would bring to an end the disputes among theologians.  In the end he upheld the teaching, consistently taught within the Christian tradition, that contraception is intrinsically wrong, for it is not in accord with the purposes of marital sexual intercourse, that is, to express and foster love in a manner that is open to new life.[16]  His successor, Pope John Paul II, strongly and repeatedly reaffirmed this teaching.[17]

Abortion

Here, too, Professor Maguire argues that because some Catholic theologians do not consider abortion to be always wrong there is no unitary Catholic position on abortion.  In fact, he argues that the dominant current of Catholic tradition supports early abortion because some eminent theologians of the past, such as St. Thomas Aquinas, did not believe that a fetus becomes a human person until several weeks after conception.  Such judgments about the status of the fetus were based on the relatively primitive biology of the ancient and medieval periods.  More importantly, these theologians never drew the conclusion that abortion was morally justified.  Since modern biology provides clear evidence of the humanness of the embryo from the moment of conception, today there can be no  reason that can justify the taking of innocent human life that occurs in abortion.  Contrary to what Professor Maguire asserts, the Catholic tradition has never supported abortion.  The Second Vatican Council clearly stated that "[l]ife must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes."[18]  Furthermore, the intrinsic immorality of abortion has been repeatedly and forcefully emphasized by the popes, particularly by Pope John Paul II.[19]

Same-Sex "Marriage"

In addition to the argument that the Pope and bishops represent just another voice alongside those of theologians in determining what constitutes the "Catholic" position, Professor Maguire's analysis of same-sex "marriage" contains errors that warrant particular attention.  First he argues that God has created some people to be "gay."  Thus he concludes, "who could imagine God creating people who are gay and then denying them the right to express their sincere and honest love in the holy sacrament of matrimony!"[20] In her teaching on the correct definition and true meaning of marriage the Church presents God's plan as found both in revelation and in the natural moral order.  Her teaching concerning the errors involved in same-sex "marriage" does not negate the recognition that we are made in the image and likeness of God, nor does it diminish the dignity of each human being, but rather calls attention to the proper use of sexuality within marriage.  God created men and women for one another, that, in marriage, they might sexually give themselves to one another for the procreation of children.

Moreover, Professor Maguire states that "homosexuality is not a sin."[21]  If, by this, Professor Maguire means that the homosexual inclination is not sinful in itself, then this is true.  However, if this is interpreted to mean that homosexual acts are not sinful, then this is erroneous.  Because such acts do not result in the loving union of a man and a woman nor are they ordered to the procreation of children they are intrinsically disordered.[22]   It is this intrinsically disordered nature of homosexual acts that prevents a "same-sex" union from expressing an authentic Christian understanding of marriage.[23]

Conclusion

The Archbishop of Milwaukee, exercising his pastoral responsibilities as teacher and shepherd, has made public statements affirming that the views expressed by Professor Maguire in his two pamphlets are erroneous and incompatible with the Church's teaching.[24]  We the Committee on Doctrine of the USCCB concur that, despite his claims to authority as a Catholic theologian, the views of Professor Maguire on contraception, abortion, and same-sex "marriage" are not those of the Catholic Church and indeed are contrary to the Church's faith.  We deplore as irresponsible his public advocacy of his views as authentic Catholic teaching.  Lastly, we trust that this statement will clarify the Church's faith and teaching for all of the Catholic faithful throughout the United States.       

Most Rev. William E. Lori, Chairman
Most Rev. Leonard P. Blair
Most Rev. Edward W. Clark
Most Rev. José H. Gomez
Most Rev. Robert J. McManus
Most Rev. Arthur J. Serratelli
Most Reverend Allen H. Vigneron
Most Reverend Donald W. Wuerl
His Eminence Avery Cardinal Dulles, SJ, Consultant
His Eminence Francis Cardinal George, OMI, Consultant

 

[1] Daniel Maguire, The Moderate Roman Catholic Position on Contraception and Abortion, p. 1.

[2] Maguire, The Moderate Roman Catholic Position on Contraception and Abortion, p. 2.

[3] Maguire, The Moderate Roman Catholic Position on Contraception and Abortion, p. 6.

[4] Daniel Maguire, A Catholic Defense of Same-Sex Marriage, p. 4.

[5] Maguire, A Catholic Defense of Same-Sex Marriage, p. 5.

[6] The Second Vatican Council clearly enunciates the Church's teaching: "The sacred synod consequently teaches that the bishops have by divine institution taken the place of the apostles as pastors of the Church" (Dogmatic Constitution on the Church [Lumen Gentium], no. 20, in Vatican Council II:  The Conciliar and Post Conciliar Documents, ed. Austin Flannery, O.P. [Collegeville, Minn.: Liturgical Press, 1992]; see also Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2nd ed. [Washington, DC: Libreria Editrice Vaticana—USCCB, 2000], nos. 861-62).

[7] See Mt 16:17-20, 28:18-20; Jn 21:15-19.

[8] See Second Vatican Council, Dogmatic Constitution on the Church (Lumen Gentium), nos. 18-19 and Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation (Dei Verbum), nos. 7-10.

[9] See Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Instruction on the Ecclesial Vocation of the Theologian (May 24, 1990), nos. 16 and 19, www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19900524_theologian-vocation_en.html.

[10] The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith's Instruction on the Ecclesial Vocation of the Theologian is very clear on this issue.  Some theologians falsely argue for a "theological pluralism" that ultimately undermines "the integrity of the faith."  In such a case the teaching of the bishops would become "one theology among many theologies, while no particular theology, however, could presume to claim universal normative status" (no. 34).  

[11] The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith states that the sense of the faith "implies then by its nature a profound agreement of spirit and heart with the Church" (Instruction on the Ecclesial Vocation of the Theologian, no. 35).  See also Second Vatican Council, Dogmatic Constitution on the Church (Lumen Gentium), no. 12, Second Vatican Council, Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation (Dei Verbum), no. 10, and Catechism of the Catholic Church, no. 889.

[12] National Conference of Catholic Bishops, The Teaching Ministry of the Diocesan Bishop: A Pastoral Reflection, (Washington, D.C.: USCCB, 1992), p. 10.  The document continues by stating that there is, nonetheless, "only one authoritative ecclesiastical magisterium that can call for the obedience of faith or religious assent of mind and will, and this pertains to the office of bishops" (Ibid.).  See also the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Instruction on the Ecclesial Vocation of the Theologian, nos. 21-31; Second Vatican Council,  Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation (Dei Verbum), nos.  23-24, and Pastoral Constitution on the Church in the Modern World (Gaudium et Spes), no. 62.

[13] Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Instruction on the Ecclesial Vocation of the Theologian, no. 21.

[14] Maguire, The Moderate Roman Catholic Position on Contraception and Abortion, p. 1.

[15] See Maguire, The Moderate Roman Catholic Position on Contraception and Abortion, p. 10.  See also Maguire, A Catholic Defense of Same-Sex Marriage, p. 5.

[16] See Pope Paul VI, Encyclical Letter on the Regulation of Birth (Humanae Vitae) (July 25, 1968), and Catechism of the Catholic Church, no. 2370.

[17] See his Apostolic Exhortation on the Role of the Christian Family in the Modern World (Familiaris Consortio,), (November 22, 1981), no. 32.  See also Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2370.

[18] Second Vatican Council, Pastoral Constitution on the Church in the Modern World (Gaudium et Spes), no. 51, in Vatican Council II:  The Conciliar and Post Conciliar Documents, ed. Austin Flannery, O.P. (Collegeville, Minn.: Liturgical Press, 1992).

[19] See Pope John Paul II, Encyclical Letter on the Value and Inviolability of Human Life (Evangelium Vitae) (March 25, 1995), nos. 58-63; and Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2270-75.

[20] Maguire, A Catholic Defense of Same-Sex Marriage, p. 2.

[21] Maguire, A Catholic Defense of Same-Sex Marriage, p. 7.

[22] See Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Declaration on Certain Questions Concerning Sexual Ethics (Persona Humana) (December 29, 1975), no. 8, www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19751229_persona-humana_en.html, and Catechism of the Catholic Church, no. 2357.

[23] See Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Considerations Regarding Proposals to Give Legal Recognition to Unions between Homosexual Persons (June 3, 2003), www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20030731_homosexual-unions_en.html.

[24] See the Archbishop's weekly column "Herald of Hope" in The Catholic Herald, August 24, 2006.




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Secretariat for Doctrine and Pastoral Practices
United States Conference of Catholic Bishops
3211 4th Street, N.E., Washington, DC 20017-1194 (202) 541-3000


3 posted on 04/02/2009 1:00:58 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher
Maybe Notre Dame should allow same-sex marriage of its football players...
4 posted on 04/02/2009 1:02:25 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Ping...

I think I will send a suggestion to the President of the University (Notre Dame) to hire "heretic" Dan McGuire.

It will be a letter filled with satire...

5 posted on 04/02/2009 1:04:30 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher; americanophile; padre35; MeekMom; Kathy in Alaska; ConorMacNessa; GeronL; houeto; ...
I wanted to make sure you got this link to the ACTION news about Notre Dame: the UNINVITE OBAMA PETITION now has a phenomenal 227,742 signatures (click the link, sign up and send it to everybody in your Address Book!)

...And a BIG, BIG PROTEST IS A-COMIN' which stirs my activist imagination and makes me think Obama is gonna unite us after all :o)

Imagine 20,000 young, old, hip, square, tie-dyed, purple-haired, properly-hatted and mantilla-covered, yarmulke-wearing and rosary-praying, Catholic and not-Catholic-by-a-long-shot, All-Baby-Loving People United in the streets of South Bend singing

"We Shall Overcome --- O Ma-ri-a!...."

Please forgive me if I've pinged you more than once. I'm getting kinda excited, here...

6 posted on 04/02/2009 1:41:17 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He who is not angry when there is a just cause for anger, sins." St. Augustine.)
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To: topher
How the *&#! did Lynch's name get on that list of disapproving bishops? His statement on the issue was, at best, an exercise in doublespeak. At worst, it was a deliberate attempt to deflect attention from the real issue.

I posted a thread about it a day or two back. Lynch said he was more concerned about the level of vitriolic rhetoric surrounding the issue than the actual invitation.

7 posted on 04/02/2009 1:49:51 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks for a very important Ping.
I heard about this petition but had not untill now have not had a link.

Will pass on to e mail list.

Are you going to be at the No to Obama at Notre Dame rally?

I have not seen much here at FR in regards to the rally.

My Prayer is that Obama does the right thing and decline the invitation.

The Priest/Man I saw speaking on EWTN called it right out.
He said this is what happens in Gods Church when so many Cathlics become CINOs, we become so complacent that the true teachings are not upheld. A slippery slope if you will.

If All Catholics were obediant to the teachings of the Church things would have never gone this far.

I think about Pope Benedict coming to America and I cringe.

The idea of Obama hosting would make me feel shame.


8 posted on 04/02/2009 2:07:38 PM PDT by Global2010 (About Catholics Come HomeAddress:http://www.catholicscomehome.org/about-us.phtml)
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To: topher

This is more like it.


9 posted on 04/02/2009 2:07:46 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: marshmallow
It is LifeSiteNews.com that is stating that Bishop Lynch is opposing the invitation of Obama.

When I saw that (from some other source), I was puzzled that he spoke out (at all) against the invitation.

When I worked at Priests for Life, Father Frank Pavone had a trip to see Terri Schiavo when she was alive (this was a few months before the effort to have her killed and news about her exploded).

At that time, Father Frank had an extra day on the trip, so this was spent talking at a pro-life Dinner, but for a different Diocese nearby. It was hard, at that time, for Priests for Life to be allowed to talk in Saint Petersburg Diocese (thanks to Bishop Lynch).

So I think it is in keeping with what a bad bishop that Bishop Lynch seems to be. For him to attack pro-lifers, and not Father Jenkins nor Obama, over the Notre Dame invitation does seem like it is in keeping with his nature...

Hasn't Bishop Lynch reached the retirement age yet?

When he does, and he is "retired", it will be good news for the Church...

10 posted on 04/02/2009 2:08:12 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
We need to have the CBR trucks in South Bend for the two weeks before the Commencement.

CBR = Center for Bio-Ethical Reform.

Webpage http://www.AbortionNo.org

The trucks pics (not too graphic, I hope):


11 posted on 04/02/2009 2:14:01 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
From the Marching orders link:

ND Trustees and Fellows:
Find them and torment them:
Board of Trustees
Fellows

12 posted on 04/02/2009 2:58:21 PM PDT by Global2010 (About Catholics Come HomeAddress:http://www.catholicscomehome.org/about-us.phtml)
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To: topher
Joe Scheidler said he's bringing the bloody pictures to South Bend. I don't know if that meant he's getting using CBR's resources, or if he had something else in mind.

O Lord, this hurts. I hope there aren't any little children around. I think little kids would find the pictures quite frightening. Lord have mercy on us all.

13 posted on 04/02/2009 3:05:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He who is not angry when there is a just cause for anger, sins." St. Augustine.)
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To: Global2010
If you will use the FreeRepublic search function, and use the keywords

notre dame

you will find dozens of articles. People are furious. The protest is going to hit big, big, big.

14 posted on 04/02/2009 3:08:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He who is not angry when there is a just cause for anger, sins." St. Augustine.)
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To: Venturer
For some reason, many people (including Catholics) assume that the Church is a monolithic autocracy in which the Pope can do whatever he wants --- period. This is not the case. Notre Dame is not directly under Church governance at all, since it is incorporated separately and has its own Board of Trustees. In that sense, the Pope doesn't control Notre Dame any more than he controls Harvard. He is certainly not in a position to hire and fire University presidents.

He can't even instantly excommunicate somebody. There would have to be a violation of law, a "crime" so to speak. Obtaining an abortion, or being a material accomplice to an abortion, would be such a crime; but unfortunately, "giving honors to a powerful pro-abort s.o.b." is not explicitly listed as a crime under Canon Law.

ND's president, Fr. Jenkins, is personally under the CSC Father Superior in Rome. The Superior doesn't "run" Notre Dame either, since the CSC's don't own Notre Dame.

Who runs Notre Dame? The Board of Trustees.

However, that doesn't mean nobody can do nothin' ...

The Bishop can rescind their right to call themselves a Catholic University.

Moreover, Fr. Jenkins' Superior, Fr. Hugh Carey, could get Fr. Jenkins transfered outta there, simply by giving him another assignment. That's a possibility.

There's no guarantee that whoever replaced Fr. Jenkins would be any better. But he might have the fear-of-God put into him by realizing that any more bad publicity and he could be forced out, too.

And Fr. Jenkins could resign. So there's (in my estimation) three realistic possibilities: Bishop D'Arcy can revoke their right to call themselves a Catholic University, Fr. Carey can "reassign" (sack) Fr. Jenkins, and/or Fr. Jenkins could resign. Let's help this happen. Are you serious about this? It'll take doing some homework:

ND Trustees and Fellows:
Find them and torment them:

Board of Trustees
Fellows

Contact Fr. Jenkins: Call him at 574.631.5000, fax him at 574.631.2770, write a personal email president@nd.edu, or mail your letter to 317 Main Building, Notre Dame, IN 46556

Very Rev. Hugh W. Cleary, C.S.C.
Superior General
Congregation of Holy Cross
Via Framura, 85
00168 Rome, Italy

Or e-mail him: contact@holycrosscongregation.org

And let us pray. With God all things are possible.

15 posted on 04/02/2009 4:09:17 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He who is not angry when there is a just cause for anger, sins." St. Augustine.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I used to be concerned about this, as well. However, I volunteered and went with the RCC Truck campaign during the election in 2004. We almost got Senator Arlen Spector defeated in the primary.

But the most telling was in Macon, Georgia. I was in a "Security Car" and I saw a woman looking at one of these RCC Trucks as they passed.

She started motioning her head back and forth as if to say: "No! No! No! This cannot be what abortion is!" And then she just lowered her head as if to say: "This is the sad truth about abortion..."

I could see pain and trouble in the face of the woman, but I could also see that if she had an abortion or aided in it, she was now very sorry, and if religious, might have at that moment asked for God's forgiveness.

I really don't think it hurts children. I remember seeing pictures of the Nazi death camps when I was very young. And it taught me a valuable lesson. But I do not think that it "injured me". Rather it made me aware that I must fight such evil...

16 posted on 04/02/2009 4:27:46 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: marshmallow

You’re right, Lynch is on the wrong list. His position was, in effect, defensive, i.e., pro-Jenkins.


17 posted on 04/02/2009 8:45:19 PM PDT by Savonarola
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