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To: Quix

Good, except I have to say he’s not our “daddy”. He’s our Father, a term of submission and respect toward a loving but powerful parent. Abba is not a term of causal familiarity in Rom. 8. It was incorrectly interpretated as “daddy” by one writer during the “religious freak” days of the late 60’s/early 70’s. It caught on and is now part of popular Christian culture. But it’s irreverant toward El Shaddai.


21 posted on 04/06/2009 11:09:02 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: mikeus_maximus

I believe that ABBA is accurately translated as DADDY.

THE MESSAGE HAS IT:

Romans 8:15 (The Message)

15-17This resurrection life you received from God is not a timid, grave-tending life. It’s adventurously expectant, greeting God with a childlike “What’s next, Papa?” God’s Spirit touches our spirits and confirms who we really are. We know who he is, and we know who we are: Father and children. And we know we are going to get what’s coming to us—an unbelievable inheritance! We go through exactly what Christ goes through. If we go through the hard times with him, then we’re certainly going to go through the good times with him!


Young’s literal translation has it:

Romans 8:15 (Young’s Literal Translation)

15for ye did not receive a spirit of bondage again for fear, but ye did receive a spirit of adoption in which we cry, `Abba — Father.’

Today’s New International with footnotes:

Romans 8:15 (Today’s New International Version)
15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. [a] And by him we cry, “Abba, [b] Father.”

Footnotes:
Romans 8:15 The Greek word for adoption to sonship is a term referring to the full legal standing of an adopted male heir in Roman culture.
Romans 8:15 Aramaic for Father


Romans 8:15 (Wycliffe New Testament)
15 For ye have not taken again the spirit of servage in dread, but ye have taken the Spirit of adoption of sons, in which we cry, Abba, Father.


Romans 8:15 (Contemporary English Version)
15God’s Spirit doesn’t make us slaves who are afraid of him. Instead, we become his children and call him our Father. [a]

Footnotes:
Romans 8:15 our Father: The Greek text uses the Aramaic word “ Abba” (meaning “ father” ), which shows the close relation between the children and their father.


Galatians 4:6

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6 And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of His Son (A) into our [a] hearts, crying, “ Abba (B) , Father!” (C)

Footnotes:
Galatians 4:6 Other mss read your
Cross references:
Galatians 4:6 : Ac 16:7; Rm 5:5;, 20; 8:9;, 16; 2Co 3:17;
Galatians 4:6 : Mk 14:36; Rm 8:15;
Galatians 4:6 : Mt 5:16; 6:1; 11:27; Jn 8:42;


Romans 8:15 (New Living Translation)

15 So you have not received a spirit that makes you fearful slaves. Instead, you received God’s Spirit when he adopted you as his own children.[a] Now we call him, “Abba, Father.”[b]

Footnotes:
Romans 8:15 Greek you received a spirit of sonship.
Romans 8:15 Abba is an Aramaic term for “father.”


Romans 8:15 (New American Standard Bible)

15For you (A)have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you (B)have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, “(C)Abba! Father!”

Cross references:
Romans 8:15 : 2 Tim 1:7; Heb 2:15
Romans 8:15 : Rom 8:23; Gal 4:5


Even ‘merely’ from THE CONTEXT we can see that

the word picture

is of a son CRYING OUT TO DADDY, PAPA, FATHER.

‘casual familiarity’ ???

Another Scripture speaks of us BOLDLY GOING BEFORE THE THRONE via Christ’s Name and Blood.

NOT as servants or slaves but as SONS, FRIENDS of God, even.

DADDY in this context is not flippant . . . not cheeky . . .

ALMIGHTY FATHER GOD SENT HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON

TO DIE

THAT WE MIGHT HAVE RESTORED ***INTIMATE*** RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FATHER.

ALMIGHTY GOD DID THAT.

ALMIGHTY GOD PLACED IN ***HIS*** WORD

the word picture of INTIMACY WITH DADDY, PAPA, FATHER.

It is not the image of

‘Gimme the car keys Daddy-O’

It IS the image of

‘Daddy, I need some lap time.’

I’m convinced that this much is the whole counsel of the whole of Scripture. It is consistent with a handful of Scriptures throughout the New Testament.

Scripture says that the Awed Fear of The Lord is the

BEGINNING

of Wisdom.

I believe the more mature wisdom is to have CHILD-LIKE FAITH, CONFIDENCE AND INIMACY WITH DADDY, PAPA, FATHER ALMIGHTY GOD.


25 posted on 04/06/2009 12:07:48 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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