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To: Diego1618; Godzilla
Elevating the shadow of the old daily, weekly, monthly and yearly types over the substance of Christ is just as wrongheaded as those people bowing down in front of a statue, and so is clinging to a long dead spouse as if the spouse were still alive.

Folks.....this admonishment against idolatry did not end at the resurrection.

We have the same moral principle enjoined in the New Testament command under the law of Christ:

1 Cor. 10:14 - "...flee from idolatry."
1 John 5:21 - "Keep yourself from idols"
After 1787 it didn't matter how many American laws were new or similar to British laws, the laws of Britain could never be appealed to as the final authority on any matter whatsoever (unless maybe you're Arlen Specter or Justice Breyer). America came under the authority of a new document or covenant. In a similar manner The Tablets of Stone given to Israel can be compared to the New Covenant given to the Church. Everything that established and governed Israel as a theocracy is no longer in effect over the Church. To continue to insist otherwise demonstrates about the same level of sanity as that of a Tory insisting in an American courtroom after 1787 that the laws of England still supersede the Constitution, and are still binding on Americans.

Nor did the Sabbath and Feast Day observances.

There are probably around a thousand commands in the New Testament, and yet you will not once find the daily, weekly, monthly and yearly observances ever commanded in the New Covenant under the law of Christ, which would be very odd if what you were insisting is true were actually true. You will never find the Sabbath commanded for Christian observance in the New Testament for the simple reason that the Sabbath was THE sign of the Old Covenant, incorporated into the Covenant document, the Ten Commandments, and we are no longer under the jurisdiction of that Covenant document. It was abolished and superseded by the New Covenant. You cannot undo the New Covenant that Christ ratified by his blood.

You need to Shepardize your theology. It is about 2000 years behind the peerless precedent of the cross of Christ, where he ratified His New Covenant by his blood.

Cordially,

1,122 posted on 05/27/2009 11:01:56 PM PDT by Diamond
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To: Diamond; DouglasKC
You will never find the Sabbath commanded for Christian observance in the New Testament for the simple reason that the Sabbath was THE sign of the Old Covenant, incorporated into the Covenant document, the Ten Commandments, and we are no longer under the jurisdiction of that Covenant document. It was abolished and superseded by the New Covenant. You cannot undo the New Covenant that Christ ratified by his blood.

Then.....please explain this: [1 John 2:3-7] And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

Is John not including the fourth commandment here?

Here is the bible definition of Sin. [1 John 3:4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

But you say....this law was done away with. How do you square that? Are we all now sinless because there is no longer a law?

[1 John 5:2-3] By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Again.....does John differentiate....does he exclude the fourth commandment? Or.....is John speaking of something else? If that is the case.....would you explain to me what it is that John refers to?

John, Peter, Paul and all the Apostles continued celebrating God's Sabbaths and Feast days. You cannot show one instance in the New Testament where the Sabbath or the Annual Feast Days were done away. On the other hand, I have just given you scriptural references showing John's support and encouragement for us to continue obeying the commandments. I can also give you scriptures showing observances of the Feast Days.

Who are you kidding?

You will never find the Sabbath commanded for Christian observance in the New Testament.......

How about........?: [Luke 23:56] And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

These women and the Apostles had all spent over three years listening everyday to Our Lord expounding on all matters of this world....and the next. Do you not think He might have mentioned to them....something as important as the abolition of the Ten Commandments....after His sacrifice. He told them continually what was going to happen. Don't you think He might have just thought they ought to know the commandments and the law would then be abolished.

Of course not. This new theology was left to Satan and the devices of man made councils, synods and creeds.

1,124 posted on 05/28/2009 8:53:08 AM PDT by Diego1618 (Put "Ron" on the rock!)
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