i can only guess what will they label us then...
Posted on 04/15/2009 3:48:45 PM PDT by 4lifeandliberty
Christian Ministry Denounced As Terrorist Group by Government
Don't think that this is a hoax. Active Christians need to be aware that they are being named by the Federal Government as being potential domestic terrorists.
How do I know this?
Life and Liberty Ministries (the Evangelistic Outreach Ministry that I direct) has been specifically named by Homeland Security as being a terrorist threat in the recently released "2009 Virginia Terrorism Threat Assessment", produced by the Virginia Fusion Center.
The Gospel and pro-life messages are perceived as dangerous to a government that hates and opposes Biblical Truth. We live in a day when you must be sure to seek out the truth before you quickly believe statements being made against fellow Christians. Lies about our Ministry are being spread through the government report and we have been characterized as being something that we are not. This is a similar tactic that is used against faithful Christians in Socialist nations were they have be slandered and labeled as criminals in an attempt to silence them.
What will be LLM's response? We will continue to uncompromisingly stand for and spread YHWH's truth.
Let hell and her minions rage.
Isaiah stated in Is. 58:1, "Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and show my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins."
Ezekiel 22:2 states, "Now, thou son of man, wilt thou judge, wilt thou judge the bloody city? yea, thou shalt shew her all her abominations."
http://www.lifeandlibertyministries.com
This sounds rather scary — do you have some sort of reference for this? I’d love to see the original material that shows you’re on this list, and to see who else is on it.
You said — Life and Liberty Ministries (the Evangelistic Outreach Ministry that I direct) has been specifically named by Homeland Security as being a terrorist threat in the recently released “2009 Virginia Terrorism Threat Assessment”, produced by the Virginia Fusion Center.
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Can you give some documentation on this? Either a website with this kind of terrorist listing and/or scan it from the relevant materials that you have (which lists you as a terrorist group)...
I would appreciate it, as I’m sure all the other readers would, too...
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I went to the website listed above, hoping to find some more specifics and details. I didn’t find more detail and additional specifics. I sure would like to get down to the facts of where you fit into this and in what report, have the report referenced somewhere — so that it’s easy for those on this board to access this report.
I would imagine since you’re familiar with all the details, having been involved already, you would have ready access to all this information that I’m talking about. That’s what is needed here to get down to the bottom of this...
I was having a conversation with my best friend about the DHS thing. He said to me, “Of course, people who support the Constitution are ‘extremists.’ The document is pure, and support of it requires dedication, in its light and in its ‘darkness.’ Adherence to the US Constitution requires unflinching faith.”
I hadn’t thought of it quite like that before, but he’s right. It’s not paper, and it’s not living. It’s words given to the fire in the belly of free men and women.
Ping for later
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Identify the PLAYERS of end-times. We have been warned. I KNOW there have been alot of different ideas about who these players will be or are, but as time passes the seals of Daniel will be opened and full understanding will come, but pay attention...THINK.
CAN you see what a Beast government is becoming? Do you realize how OLD religion is?? I'm not talking about the Faith, Hope and Love Christ preached about..I'm talking about RELIGION. Political Rome and Religious Pharisees JOINED to crucify Christ. We were told that what came against Him would come against His people.
WHEN the Beast/Gov. is done using the Whore/Religion it will destroy her. Rev. 18:4 “COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.”
This whore is in Genesis and she goes all the way through to Revelation...she is very very old...from beginning to end. Religion HAS done more killing than anyone can fathom....there is a DIFFERENCE, between religion and faith!!! “There is a way that seems right unto man that leads to destruction.”
FIND a religious organization that is not in bed with the Beast for her tax exempt status.
WHAT did Christ do when asked about taxes??? He said..”Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's.” Sent a disciple to get a coin out of a fishes mouth (God will provide) and paid it!!! He did not go to Rome begging favors to build His kingdom...NOT THEN...NOT NOW!! This act has made what should be the Church...a whore. It is this Whore that the Beast will destroy. The Church is a PEOPLE...not organizations or denominations!
I say this not to shake your faith but to strengthen your faith when you SEE God do exactly what He said He would do.
He is telling His people they are in something they should not be in and to GET OUT before He strikes, and He allows it to be destroyed. READ IT!!!
You WILL start seeing the beginnings of this destruction and control...we already are!!
Can you also SEE how global this world has become? We are further into end-times than most know. IS America that revised Roman Empire while we are taught to look to Europe...to hold prophecy to the future and not to NOW???!!
“IF it were possible even the very elect of God will be deceived.” THAT fellow believers is a deception of huge magnitude, and looks like a way that seems right!!!
Stay strong...pray for the peace of Jerusalem...true peace will come for Jerusalem when the Lord returns. In praying for Jerusalem’s peace you are praying for the Lord to return.
HIDEOUS.
They have absolutely no clue of the consequences of their choices and behaviors in such labeling and actions.
I’m confident their cells in hell are well reserved.
i can only guess what will they label us then...
Right on. I think that Israel will take out Iran’s nuke facilities this year (self preservation), and the Obama administration will throw her under the bus for that action. I think that will spark Ezekiel’s war which is the start of the finish. I don’t think that bodes well for Chritians in the USA.
I believe America is Babylon the great.
Go to Michelle Malkin's site and download the thing and read it for yourself. Either this statement is in there or not....I've NOT read it myself. I believe Michelle and I HIGHLY DOUBT this organization (LLM) would say what they did without it being the truth.
You said — Go to Michelle Malkin’s site and download the thing and read it for yourself. Either this statement is in there or not....I’ve NOT read it myself. I believe Michelle and I HIGHLY DOUBT this organization (LLM) would say what they did without it being the truth.
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I’ll go there, since you say the documentation is there. But, at the same time, I would like to find out what they have. Like for instance, did they get a letter, or maybe were they notified before, or did they just find out by reading Michelle Malkin’s site... and/or whatever else they may have.
I had answered back x and said — I’ll go there, since you say the documentation is there. But, at the same time, I would like to find out what they have. Like for instance, did they get a letter, or maybe were they notified before, or did they just find out by reading Michelle Malkin’s site... and/or whatever else they may have.
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Well, I went there and saw another referenced website (Michelle Malkin’s site pointing to it) and then got the document from it. I downloaded the document and did a word search for ...
“life and liberty”
“life & liberty”
“life”
And in all those searches I found absolutely nothing there. There is no named group by the name of “Life and Liberty” Ministries in that document.
SO, therefore..., I’m right back to my original questions about *documentation*...
Will the original poster please give some further information and the documentation for their ministry being targeted.
Thank you...
You said — I was unaware any specific groups or organizations were named. Do you have a link to where I can verify this.
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Well, I was just directed to a website to verify this very thing, and “lo and behold” — I could find nothing at all — *no* named group.
So, unless someone posts the actual documentation, this appears to be a hoax, in that a ministry was named as a terrorist group or a “watched” group of some kind. I see no such name mentioned at all...
Thanks.
I am very concerned about how the 0 admn has systematically moved to marginalize people/groups that are in opposition to it. I don't put it past them to try and create a "fake" outrage just to further marginalize those that get upset before fully checking. We are living in a dark time.
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