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Proof of Jesus' Black Heritage Comes From Surprising Source: Two Black Mormons
BlackNews.com ^ | Marvin Perkins

Posted on 04/18/2009 8:54:01 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

Santa Clarita, CA (BlackNews.com) - It's the fourth largest and fastest growing church in America, which has now tabulated greater membership abroad than in the US, with over 13.5 million members world wide, and its greatest growth in Africa. They donate more goods and services to charity than any other organization in the world, and have an impressive focus on family and education that is refreshingly rare and unmatched.

But if you ask them why Blacks were restricted from the Priesthood and temples until 1978, and is dark skin a curse, you'll receive blank stares or answers that don't fit the generally high level of religious or academic education. The answers, or lack of answers will confirm that inequality has been a part of their teachings for quite some time, and that these haunting issues have not been sufficiently addressed. That is until now.

Two Black Mormons -- yes, that's not a typo -- two Black Mormons, have recently launched a groundbreaking DVD series that answers the questions we've been asking in regards to their religion's teachings on race, but have to this point gone unanswered. The real prize and surprise in this effort, has been the uncovering of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, demonstrating that Jesus was indeed Black. This is truly remarkable! For the first time, you can trace with incredible detail, from the Old Testament to the New Testament, the family tree from which Jesus came. Put away the "wooly hair" argument, we now have real proof and can literally see the African heritage in the Savior.

The Blacks in the Scriptures DVD series, a 2 disc set, by Darius Gray and Marvin Perkins, is lifting the self-image of Blacks around the world, as the manufactured history of Oppression is replaced by the original and actual history. This powerful new series will walk you through the Bible showing you exactly how to identify many of the Black heroes therein.

Then using the Bible and the Latter-day Saints' own sacred writings, they debunk the myths of skin color, curses, inequality and rights to the Priesthood with scriptural truths. Scholars and theologians worldwide are praising the doctrinal and scholarly detail of this great work, a must for every generation. Get the series today by going to www.BlacksintheScriptures.com.


TOPICS: Apologetics; History; Other Christian; Religion & Culture
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The real prize and surprise in this effort, has been the uncovering of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, demonstrating that Jesus was indeed Black. This is truly remarkable! For the first time, you can trace with incredible detail, from the Old Testament to the New Testament, the family tree from which Jesus came. Put away the "wooly hair" argument, we now have real proof and can literally see the African heritage in the Savior.
1 posted on 04/18/2009 8:54:01 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

If you read on further, you find that these two had some black onyx plates revealed to them by an angel. They translated them by looking into their baseball caps. Now the black plates are gone, but the DVD sales are still going strong.


2 posted on 04/18/2009 9:00:27 AM PDT by farmer18th (If you preach "too big to let fail," you're also preaching "too small to let succeed.")
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Then using the Bible and the Latter-day Saints' own sacred writings, they debunk the myths of skin color, curses, inequality and rights to the Priesthood with scriptural truths

So are these Mormon leaders saying Joseph Smith lied?

3 posted on 04/18/2009 9:02:45 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (He bows to the Saudi King - we don't have Camelot, we have Camel Lot)
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To: Alex Murphy

Jesus probably looked more like this man than anything else people have dreamed up.

4 posted on 04/18/2009 9:11:24 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Alex Murphy

Aw geez, not this #### again. Jesus was a Jew. Period. Sheesh.


5 posted on 04/18/2009 9:11:37 AM PDT by piytar (Obama = Mugabe wannabe. Wake up America.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Given that Scripture gives us the genealogy from Adam to Jesus, I don’t think these guys have a leg to stand on.

Genealogy of Jesus according to Luke

1. God
2. Adam
3. Seth
4. Enosh
5. Cainain
6. Mahalalel
7. Jared

8. Enoch
9. Methuselah
10. Lamech
11. Noah
12. Shem
13. Arphaxad
14. Cainan
15. Shelah
16. Eber
17. Peleg
18. Reu
19. Serug
20. Nahor
21. Terah

22. Abraham
23. Isaac
24. Jacob
25. Judah
26. Pharez
27. Hezron
28. Ram
29. Amminadab
30. Nahshon
31. Salmon
32. Boaz
33. Obed
34. Jesse
35. David

36. Nathan
37. Mattatha
38. Menna
39. Melea
40. Eliakim
41. Jonam
42. Joseph
43. Judah
44. Simeon
45. Levi
46. Matthat
47. Jorim
48. Eliezer
49. Joshua

50. Er
51. Elmadam
52. Cosam
53. Addi
54. Melchi
55. Neri
56. Shealtiel
57. Zerubbabel
58. Rhesa
59. Joanan
60. Joda
61. Josech
62. Semein
63. Mattathias

64. Maath
65. Naggai
66. Hesli
67. Nahum
68. Amos
69. Mattathias
70. Joseph
71. Jannai
72. Melchi
73. Levi
74. Matthat
75. Eli
76. Joseph *
77. Jesus

Pretty detailed.


6 posted on 04/18/2009 9:19:49 AM PDT by Marie2 (No, we're NOT "all socialists now.")
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To: Marie2

Something is wrong with people whose self esteem depends on Jesus being the mirror (skin color) of themselves.


7 posted on 04/18/2009 9:27:05 AM PDT by DeLaine (Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. (MLK))
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To: Alex Murphy

Geez, you would think these people would come up with something better than we can see it in him.


8 posted on 04/18/2009 9:42:38 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty

I thinks that’s the best they have, I mean other than the photographs that are kept secret.


9 posted on 04/18/2009 10:04:17 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Apparently, if your parents travel with their infant child to Egypt, then return to their homeland some time later, that automatically and miraculously makes the child “a person of Black Heritage”. Either that, or your line of family, having at one time centuries back, been in slavery in Egypt, qualifies you as of “Black Heritage”. At least that is how this whole thing boils down.

I won’t argue that the traditional “pale-skined”, blue-eyed figure of Jesus found in the predominant art from fairly early in church history, the argument that Jesus was a “Black Man” truly is absurd.

Or maybe this all is new revelation on some new golden plates that can only be translated by using special glasses provided by the angel “Moroni”...


10 posted on 04/18/2009 10:20:46 AM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: Marie2

Maybe on his mom’s die?

[/sarcasm]


11 posted on 04/18/2009 10:23:47 AM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: Alex Murphy

This is all just silly.


12 posted on 04/18/2009 10:27:54 AM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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What does the word ‘the Adam’ mean? And what were the words used to describe what David looked like.

Now it is NOT material to me what ‘race’ Jesus was, but what the WORD tells us is sufficient for me to accept what is.

13 posted on 04/18/2009 10:30:55 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: DeLaine

Dean on.


14 posted on 04/18/2009 10:31:58 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: Vendome

Dead on.

Fiked it. i are knot tiepain verr well tuhday


15 posted on 04/18/2009 10:33:44 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: DeLaine
Something is wrong with people whose self esteem depends on Jesus being the mirror (skin color) of themselves.

If you've seen Mormon art, the depictions of Jesus and most other Biblical or Book of Mormon persons are almost Nordic in their appearance, way more so than the Medieval artists did. I can imagine that it would naturally generate some push-back.

16 posted on 04/18/2009 10:52:12 AM PDT by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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To: Alex Murphy; All
From the article: ...if you ask them [Mormons] why Blacks were restricted from the Priesthood and temples until 1978, and is dark skin a curse, you'll receive blank stares or answers that don't fit the generally high level of religious or academic education. The answers, or lack of answers will confirm that inequality has been a part of their teachings for quite some time, and that these haunting issues have not been sufficiently addressed...Two Black Mormons -- yes, that's not a typo -- two Black Mormons have recently launched a groundbreaking DVD series that answers the questions we've been asking in regards to their religion's teachings on race, but have to this point gone unanswered...

Wait a minute. I thought that's what they had prophets, apostles, First Presidencies, general authorities, and an entire LDS PR department for -- to answer questions like these? You mean these so-called "representatives of God" can't answer in a straightforward way when these questions are asked?

Don't they proclaim to be God's mouthpiece? And all we get from them is "blank stares or answers?" They presume to speak on all kinds of issues -- but they can't even address 150 years of their own history? Really?

What's even more telling when you go to this DVD Web site is to hear/see the one question in their FAQ section of the site. A supposed Mormon asks LDS black rep Marvin Perkins if LDS should make a mea culpa. You can go there yourself to hear the answer, but the most telling part is to hear Perkins say at one point:

"Elder [LDS apostle Bruce R.] McConkie said 'Forget everything that I said that Brigham Young said and that George Q. Cannon said. We spoke with a limited understanding...'"

I looked up the context of the quote Perkins was referencing. Here it is: McConkie wrote: Forget everything that I have said, or what President Brigham Young or President George Q. Cannon or whoever has said in days past that is contrary to the present revelation. We spoke with a limited understanding and without the light and knowledge that now has come into the world.

What an interesting response for both Perkins and McConkie: Let's quote an LDS apostle who is supposedly "God's mouthpiece" who now is saying "forget everything that I said" and on top of that "let's forget everything Brigham Young has said," and on top of that, let's forget everything that a first president of the church has said, etc. etc. etc.

And why should LDS do that? From the top down an admission that: "We spoke with a limited understanding and without the light and knowledge..."

My question is...why limit that acknowledged "limited understanding" + conceded darkness & ignorance to just their positions on black skin? It also applies to who God is; who Jesus is; that sin in the garden wasn't meant to be "celebrated" as an "upward fall" because it supposedly opened the door to godhood; the way of salvation; that exaltation doesn't = godhood; temple activities; genealogy and on and on.

What's also telling is whenever somebody in leadership says "forget everything that I said, or that somebody else in authority said that I cited, etc." I mean, it's that kind of leadership language that got Tricky Dick Nixon impeached. Why? In part, because we had his secretary trying to erase 17 minutes of what Nixon said in a phone convo.

Whenever we have a so-called apostle saying, "Oh, just erase those 17 minutes of what I said about this being God's direct Word on the subject...and while you're at, just erase those 17 hours of what Brigham Young said about this being God's direct Word on the subject...and while you're at, just erase those 17 minutes of what a first president said about this being God's direct Word on the subject," you have a "tricky Dick" incarnation in the form of a Mormon "apostle."

And to think that this LDS rep (Perkins) thinks that quote is worth elevating shows his own lack of public ethics!

17 posted on 04/18/2009 1:42:03 PM PDT by Colofornian ("As the fLDS are, the LDS once were. As the fLDS are, the LDS will become.")
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To: Alex Murphy

Mormons? What do they know about Jesus? They’re following a cult started by a child molesting conman.


18 posted on 04/18/2009 2:41:41 PM PDT by CodeToad (Anyone wanting the government to take over medical care should stand in line at the post office)
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To: Alex Murphy
I always like a verse from a song that Larry Norman did that basically says we will all be surprised when we don't see a white anglo/saxon Jesus sitting on the thrown.
19 posted on 04/18/2009 7:07:44 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Hmmmmmmmmmmm


20 posted on 04/18/2009 8:45:38 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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