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To: Colofornian
It should be abundantly clear by now, with all that has been perpetrated against us in the last 100 days, that "Mormonism" is the least of our concerns.

I have decideed that those who dwell on this issue in the political domain are colluding in a leftwing tactic to keep the Right divided. Let it go, anti-Mormons. We have a wolf in the kitchen and you are weeping and gnashing your teeth over a mouse in the corn crib.

231 posted on 04/26/2009 7:20:20 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Do you think one must only focus on one problem at a time? How can you possibly handle your family or your business dealings with what has happened in the last 100 days if that can be your only focus.

Are we to let all other evils in the world continue simply because Obama is evil and is the only thing to focus upon? To some of us, leading people away from the Grace of Jesus Christ is the ultimate affront to humanity - it seems it is not a concern of yours.

And with a name like hinckley buzzard, I assume you are LDS. Correct?


232 posted on 04/26/2009 7:38:10 AM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

For some of us souls are more important than politics. It does not matter how nice the LDS can be (and I have several LDS friends), they are greatly deceived and it would not be loving of me to adopt a “live and let live” attitude. I do not believe truth to be relative. This is not “mormon bashing”, it is not about one denomination over another, it is telling the truth about their beliefs.

Often the LDS will say “if you want to know what we believe ask a Mormon”, well sometimes they do not tell you the truth, or not the whole truth. I have been there. I was taught at an LDS university (BYU) that there were certain doctrines that we were not to teach. I was not told many, many doctrines until AFTER I joined. The LDS are told to put their “best face forward” in order to get non-mormons to become interested in the LDS church. That alone can be deceptive.


240 posted on 04/26/2009 8:32:21 AM PDT by reaganaut ("When we FACE UP to the Majesty of God, we will find ourselves FACE DOWN in Worship" - Matt Redman)
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To: hinckley buzzard
It should be abundantly clear by now, with all that has been perpetrated against us in the last 100 days, that "Mormonism" is the least of our concerns. I have decideed that those who dwell on this issue in the political domain are colluding in a leftwing tactic to keep the Right divided. Let it go... We have a wolf in the kitchen and you are weeping and gnashing your teeth over a mouse in the corn crib.

Well, when it comes to setting cultural priorities, who are we going to follow...you? Or Jesus and Paul? Here's Jesus:

"I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." (Luke 12:4-5)

So does Jesus say, "fear the political perpetrators -- the Herods of His day?" and "fear the wolves hungry to have Little Red Riding Hood?" (No) Does He say to exercise fear of the One who has authority to cast somebody into hell? (Yes) So, indeed, our "fear" is on behalf of those who are placing their eternal spiritual lives at risk.

I have decideed that those who dwell on this issue in the political domain are colluding in a leftwing tactic to keep the Right divided. Let it go...

You know, I could probably guess that the folks who the apostle Paul warned the church @ Ephesus about had the bulk in common with the sheep there. So, did Paul play the "allies" game you're playing then? (No)

And how irony for you to use the wolf illustration -- when the apostle Paul used it thousands of years earlier to say 100% opposite of your short-sited claims. As Paul was leaving the church of Ephesus, he warned them with this high-priority alert:

"I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears." (Acts 20:29-31)

Tell me something, HB: If you did something tearfully night and day for three years, do you think it's rather important? So what? We're just to conclude, "Oh, the man who contributed a good chunk to the New Testament -- what does he know about cultural priorities?"

I'll take Paul's and Jesus' already-revealed priorities to your guesswork based upon bashing us as "leftwing tacticians" and "anti-Mormons" -- 'tis a huge difference between warning people about certain systems than being so-called "against" the people who embrace those systems. Tough love still = love.

297 posted on 04/26/2009 10:57:31 PM PDT by Colofornian
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