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Did God Speak at Mt. Sinai?
'Aish HaTorah ^ | Not dated | Rabbi Nechemia Coopersmith and Rabbi Moshe Zeldman

Posted on 05/26/2009 9:27:20 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator

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To: hlmencken3; rmlew; Nachum; dervish; Yehuda; Ancesthntr; TorahTrueJew; Yomin Postelnik; ...
Annual bump for Shavu`ot (zeman mattan Toratenu).
41 posted on 06/02/2014 3:14:03 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
That's for the ping, ZC. I like how you return to the threads year after year, in the same spirit as the cyclical readings of the Torah.

Adding to the thread the classic movie scene of the giving of the Torah. :)

42 posted on 06/02/2014 3:37:05 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“This weekend is Shavu`ot,...”

This year it starts Tuesday evening 18 minutes before sunset and ends the next evening in Israel 45 minutes after sunset. Outside of Israel it lasts until 45 minutes after sundown on Thursday.


43 posted on 06/02/2014 8:01:54 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
“This weekend is Shavu`ot,...”

This year it starts Tuesday evening 18 minutes before sunset and ends the next evening in Israel 45 minutes after sunset. Outside of Israel it lasts until 45 minutes after sundown on Thursday.

I am aware of that. I believe if you look at that particular post you will see that it is from a previous year (I bump this article every year).

I'm not a Qara'ite.

45 posted on 06/03/2014 7:08:39 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Alrighty then!


46 posted on 06/03/2014 7:39:25 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: hlmencken3; rmlew; Nachum; dervish; Yehuda; Ancesthntr; TorahTrueJew; Yomin Postelnik; ...

Shavu`ot is this weekend!


47 posted on 05/20/2015 2:00:26 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Ping to #38 and up thread.

God did not say the Ten Commandments in public because only those ten were of lasting importance. The narrative clearly indicates God was going to continue speaking more commandments in public, but relented because the Children of Israel felt they could not bear it.


48 posted on 05/20/2015 2:10:51 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Thanks, ZC--a truly special and joyous occasion!

"The only absolutely verifiable and objective Divine Revelation in history, on which all other claimants stand or fall!"

Well, not to forget the Prophets. Elijah was pretty special, too. Instead of dying in our presence like the rest of us, he blasted off. Evidence: Jezebel, eaten by dogs (to be redone by way of fathers rejoining sons), and much more.

But yes, Shavu`ot, for those who are a light to the world!


49 posted on 05/20/2015 3:48:41 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Tao Yin; Zionist Conspirator

Tao Yin, the chosen people brought the original text of the Torah to the present day. With all of the oppositions and obstacles along the way, they could not have done so by themselves. That’s a big deal, too—something to contemplate and cheer.

Everyone gets something good.

Isaiah 56.

Jealousy is a snag to be avoided.

Isaiah 11:13


50 posted on 05/20/2015 4:14:02 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Today is the 46th day of the counting of the omer! Tonight starts the 47th!


51 posted on 05/20/2015 4:27:09 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; Zionist Conspirator; Nachum; KC_Lion

A little BT (ba’al teshuva, not-raised-observant) joke for y’all at my expense, and for all flaming-neshama BT’s and FFBs and BNs (the coolest new acronym for B’nei Noach) everywhere:

One BT asks his friend, “What night of Chanukah is it?”
Friend: “Last night we lit 3 candles...”

Get it?! Oy, too funny... (get it? he doesn’t want to say what night of Chanukah it is since he’s confusing halachot of the Omer count and Chanukah.... tough crowd, tough crowd. Thanks, I’m here all week!)

We should receive the Torah anew in a joyful and meaningful way. Amen.


52 posted on 05/20/2015 5:36:13 PM PDT by Phinneous (Viva Napoli!)
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To: Phinneous

53 posted on 05/20/2015 6:46:13 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

>>> he had to wear a veil over his face he was so radiant

And that detail was mistranslated for a millennium, as “Moses had yellow horns” coming out of his head.

As a result, almost any depiction of Moses up to the Renaissance shows him with horns on his head:

https://kachina2012.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/a3848-michaelangelos_moses_1.jpg

http://thriceholy.net/JPGs/honore.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2519/3838282755_e6aa717a97.jpg

etc.


54 posted on 05/20/2015 6:58:51 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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55 posted on 05/20/2015 8:14:08 PM PDT by KC_Lion (This Millennial is for Cruz!)
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To: KC_Lion

It was the pre-incarnate Yeshua, the Logos who spoke to Moses. Remember in the NT Yeshua claimed to be the Great I Am as in Exodus 3?


56 posted on 05/20/2015 8:37:35 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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It was the pre-incarnate Yeshua, the Logos who spoke to Moses. Remember in the NT Yeshua claimed to be the Great I Am as in Exodus 3?

If I said I were "gxd" incarnate would you believe me just because I said so?

I've never seen such unexamined, irrational, fallacious reasoning . . . except maybe among evolutionists.

57 posted on 05/21/2015 8:11:53 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Typical unknowable liberal reasoning ...


58 posted on 05/21/2015 8:32:19 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: SkyDancer
Typical unknowable liberal reasoning ...

No. You are the liberal here, arguing for an innovation that was never provided for at Sinai based on the tautology "J*sus is the 'son of god' because he said he was, and because he was the 'son of god,' he could not be in error when he claimed to be the 'son of god.'"

G-d had already spoken at Sinai. Every claim of prophecy or of "new revelation" must be measured by the Torah given at Sinai. No one has the authority to just up and say "I'm the fulfillment of such-and-such a prophecy!" The Sinai judges all and is judged by none. The rest of the Hebrew Bible is only there because it does not contradict the Torah. To accept the Torah on the authority of someone who lived a thousand years later instead of on the fact that it is the one and only time in history that the spiritual and unincarnated G-d actually spoke at once to an entire nation is not to accept it at all.

There's an old conservative saying: "If it's new, it ain't true." Try judging the "new testament" by the Torah instead of the other way around some time . . . if you're capable of doing so.

59 posted on 05/21/2015 2:03:53 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Do some research. First, find out exactly who you are answering before mouthing off about something you know nothing about.


60 posted on 05/21/2015 2:25:47 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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