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ELCA Congregation Grieves after Member Shot in Church
ECLA News Service ^ | 4 June AD 2009 | Staff

Posted on 06/04/2009 2:15:06 PM PDT by lightman

ELCA Congregation Grieves after Member Shot in Church 09-127-FI

CHICAGO (ELCA) -- The funeral for Dr. George Tiller will be June 6 at College Hill United Methodist Church, Wichita, Kan. Tiller was shot and killed May 31 while serving as an usher for Sunday worship at nearby Reformation Lutheran Church, where he was a member. Tiller was 67.

The funeral will begin at 10 a.m. Tiller's family requested College Hill because it offers more available seating than Reformation.

"All the different stages and symptoms of grief are happening here," said the Rev. Lowell R. Michelson, senior pastor for Reformation, a congregation of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA). He said many began their "journey of healing" by gathering the evening of the shooting for a vigil with the Rev. Gerald L. Mansholt, bishop, ELCA Central States Synod, Kansas City, Kan.

This week a team of crisis intervention specialists is meeting with members of Reformation in groups and individually, Michelson said. The specialists "helped us name some of those things that we haven't been able to put a name to in our anger, sadness, confusion and disbelief." They will continue counseling the congregation through weekend worship services.

The Rev. Kristin M. Neitzel, associate pastor, is working with parish nurses and lay ministers to care for "those folks who are noticeably absent," Michelson said. They will be mobilizing all congregation members to support each other in the days ahead.

Michelson is preparing to preach the funeral sermon. He said the family selected verses from the Gospel of John, in which Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. Those who believe in me, even though they die, will live."

Others at the funeral will reflect on Tiller's life, and Michelson said he plans to "talk about the promises of God and the hope that we have in the one who loved us first."

Tiller was one of a few doctors in the United States who provided abortions after the 21st week of pregnancy. Scott P. Roeder, 51, was arrested and charged with murder in connection with the shooting.

According to KAKE television, Wichita, the family's lawyer, Dan Monnat issued a statement: "While the funeral of Dr. George Tiller will be open to the public, Dr. Tiller's family has requested that no video or audio recording be allowed during any portion of the funeral service Saturday. The family respectfully asks that all media honor their wish to preserve the privacy of the occasion, both inside the church and in any overflow areas."

The family's lawyers issued a statement earlier at the request of Jeanne Tiller, the Tillers' four children and 10 grandchildren:

"We would like to express the family's thanks for the many messages of sympathy from our friends and from all across the nation. We also want to thank the law enforcement officers who are investigating this crime.

"Our loss is also a loss for the city of Wichita and women across America. George dedicated his life to providing women with high-quality health care despite frequent threats and violence."

-- -- -- The full text of a statement by the Rev. Mark S. Hanson, ELCA presiding bishop, is at http://tinyurl.com/p8y69r on the ELCA Web site.


TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Worship
KEYWORDS: abortion; collegehill; collegehillumc; danmonnat; elca; funeral; mansholt; michelson; monnat; moralrelativism; neitzel; reformationlutheran; religiousleft; tiller; tolerantleft
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Holy God,
Holy Mighty,
Holy Immortal,
have mercy on us.
1 posted on 06/04/2009 2:15:07 PM PDT by lightman
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...


Lutheran (ELCA) Ping!

Veni, Sanctae Spiritus!

2 posted on 06/04/2009 2:16:18 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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To: lightman

Should have already been grieving over having an unrepentant member who made a living killing babies.


3 posted on 06/04/2009 2:17:21 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: lightman

They could talk about the One who love us first, and how He created life and deemed it to be precious, far more so than this man or his killer deemed it to be.


4 posted on 06/04/2009 2:18:19 PM PDT by wastedpotential (McCain always said I was an agent of intolerance, but we were the ones who tolerated him most)
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To: BibChr

exactly


5 posted on 06/04/2009 2:18:59 PM PDT by cyborg (The Cyborg Show brought you by the Apple iPhone)
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To: lightman
Tiller's family requested College Hill because it offers more available seating than Reformation.

Yeah, I'm sure. This is one "tragedy" the left won't fail to promote. They'll probably be able to get Super Bowl advertising rates.

6 posted on 06/04/2009 2:19:28 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: lightman
Are they going to "grieve" any of the sixty thousand babies he murdered?

Yeah ... right ...

7 posted on 06/04/2009 2:22:07 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: lightman
Michelson is preparing to preach the funeral sermon. He said the family selected verses from the Gospel of John, in which Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. Those who believe in me, even though they die, will live."

Others at the funeral will reflect on Tiller's life, and Michelson said he plans to "talk about the promises of God and the hope that we have in the one who loved us first."

These people are completely disconnected from the reality of Tiller's life.

Perhaps they should read from the portion of the Acts of the Apostles where the remaining Apostles held a funeral for Judas Iscariot . . . oh yeah that didn't happen.

8 posted on 06/04/2009 2:22:45 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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There are so many things wrong about this press release it is hard to know where to begin, but I will begin near the beginning:

"All the different stages and symptoms of grief are happening here," said the Rev. Lowell R. Michelson, senior pastor for Reformation, a congregation of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA)

The very FIRST thing quoted from this Pastor is not a word of Scripture, nor a phrase from the liturgy, but a bunch of psychobabble from a psychologist-wannabe.

So let's throw a bit a pschobabble right back--he was definitely an enabler of his deceased parishioner's deviancy.

9 posted on 06/04/2009 2:25:15 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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To: lightman
With Tiller arriving at the front gate to his property, a counselor finished her plea, “You can’t go to heaven unrepentant, George; you are going to hell.” The abortionist George Tiller instantly quipped, “Abortion is worth going to hell for.”

Wonder if he still feels this way?

http://www.mttu.com/Articles/Partial-Birth%20Abortionist%20Confesses%20He%20is%20Going%20to%20Hell.htm

10 posted on 06/04/2009 2:25:23 PM PDT by CharlieOK1 (Don't blame me, I voted for Sarah)
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To: BibChr

I agree.


11 posted on 06/04/2009 2:28:50 PM PDT by CASchack
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To: lightman

No tears will be shed for his thousands of victims.


12 posted on 06/04/2009 2:31:38 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I don’t expect you to see this funeral promoted much at all at places like DU, Kos, or Huffy.

They have been promoting this narrative that a bunch of Christians murdered a doctor in the name of Jesus from the moment the first dribbles of news came out.

If you have the uninformed find out that an usher in a church (however evil he may have been) was gunned down during Sunday morning service by a long time anarchist who held his own church at home on Saturday, it makes it hard to paint this with the hateful Christians brush that they all jumped up with right off.

They can’t admit that just because he was in a church, that doesn’t mean he was a Christian now can they? What about homosexuals in churches? They said to many embarrassing things at the beginning of this story.

They will gloss over the funeral, and refer to this obliquely, lest anyone notice the actual details.


13 posted on 06/04/2009 2:32:26 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: lightman

“talk about the promises of God and the hope that we have in the one who loved us first.”

The irony of this statement is astounding.


14 posted on 06/04/2009 2:34:15 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: wagglebee
He said the family selected verses from the Gospel of John, in which Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. Those who believe in me, even though they die, will live."

A very perverted irony in that selection since Tiller advertised that he would "baptize" the aborted fetuses murdered children upon request.

15 posted on 06/04/2009 2:40:06 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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To: lightman

Save a tiny bit of sympathy for the victims of the victim.


16 posted on 06/04/2009 2:42:09 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: lightman

I have not seen any reports about whether Tiller is being buried or cremated, but he SHOULD NOT be buried in a consecrated cemetery.


17 posted on 06/04/2009 2:45:51 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: lightman

If they weren’t people, why would this fellow offer to baptize them? If they were, why would he slice them apart?

The darkness is over the land.


18 posted on 06/04/2009 2:46:57 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: lightman

Tiller made a good living by killing children and this church did nothing to stop him by preaching repentance to him. Unable to bring him to repentance, it was their Scriptural duty to exclude him from fellowship, but they chose not to.

This is an apostate church. They are certainly not following the teachings of the Bible and of the Lutheran traditions. Let them mourn Tiller. God is mourning for them and for the babies.


19 posted on 06/04/2009 2:49:50 PM PDT by freemama
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To: lightman
A very perverted irony in that selection since Tiller advertised that he would "baptize" the aborted fetuses murdered children upon request.

Before or after he stabbed scissors through their skull? or was it suctioning their brain out through their ear? I am not up on the latest techniques for mutilating babies.
20 posted on 06/04/2009 2:51:15 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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