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To: vladimir998

You make clear what most Roman Catholics arrogantly quietly believe, that Christ is insufficient for salvation. If you believed that Christ was sufficient, you wouldn’t dismiss non-Roman Christians as belonging to a heretical sect saturated with false doctrine.

Man, I hate what Rome became. And I love what Christ has done with His Church, the body of Christ on earth which includes all who’ve placed their faith in Him.

You go worship the Co-Mediatrix; I’ll worship Mary’s Son instead. He, not she, is the Savior of my soul.


26 posted on 06/12/2009 8:59:16 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Theo
Man, I hate what Rome became. And I love what Christ has done with His Church, the body of Christ on earth which includes all who’ve placed their faith in Him.

You love a splintered, divided cacophony of competing voices? You love the great American tradition of custom-made churches where if nothing currently available suits your taste, you simply start your own? You love souls left to their own devices to try and figure out what Holy Scripture is saying when God, in His Divine Providence, left us with an infallible apostolic body to explain it, guard it and transmit it untainted to future generations? You love to listen to some guy in a suit whose done a "course" on Scripture when you could have the 2,000 year tradition of holy apostles, saints, theologians and doctors of the Church?

What's the good of having an "infallible" Bible if you don't have an "infallible" guardian and interpreter of same?

Rome is not an ogre trying to push you off the rails and damn you to hell. It's a father. A mother. A parent put in place by God to provide you with stability, continuity and guidance. More importantly, it has what no self-appointed biblical expert has; authority. That's the real problem inherent in Protestantism. It's the elephant in the living room about which nobody wants to speak.

When you strip away all fluff, it all comes down to one basic thing. The fundamental problem which Protestants have with Rome is authority. The won't accept what Rome says about Scripture or anything. They prefer their own opinions.

You go listen to the latest take on the Redemption. Embrace the latest half-baked biblical exegesis about the importance of the Mother of God. I'll take the words of Holy Mother Church founded by Jesus Christ and built on the rock, Petrus Romanus.

29 posted on 06/12/2009 9:29:26 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Theo
You make clear what most Roman Catholics arrogantly quietly believe, that Christ is insufficient for salvation.

And you bear false witness.

You go worship the Co-Mediatrix; I’ll worship Mary’s Son instead. He, not she, is the Savior of my soul.

There's no such thing as a "Co-Mediatrix," nor do Catholics pay worship to such a person. We adore the Most Holy Trinity.

35 posted on 06/12/2009 9:48:51 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Theo

I believe we are in a time where Christians should pray more and talk less of who is right and who is wrong. A committed Christian who lives the Gospel and has love for Jesus will more than likely not be swayed by anyone here and what they think is true or false. But we DO have people who believe they are Christian and embrace sins such as abortion and homosexuality. These people are the ones to reach out to and pray for not the constant talking whose faith is best,God will be the judge. It just seems that with the way this country is going we need each other to stand and unite for Christ. I am Catholic and the only thing I am going to say is we DO NOT worship Mary. I remember a time when I used to get so mad when people say things like that but it still surprises me if people can just simply say something enough they believe it. I need no response because what you want to believe and what you do believe has no effect on me and what I do as a Catholic. And we have enough problems with priests like Jenkins to get worked up about rather than by someone who believes Catholics worship Mary syndrome. I am a conservative CATHOLIC and I am saying it very clearly it is not true. But we have to love our Lord together to reach out to those such as the liberal Christians who are like this woman used to be in this article- God bless Nora http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/mwest/090610


50 posted on 06/12/2009 1:11:40 PM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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