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Caught between two evil regimes
The Catholic Herald ^ | 19 June 2009 | Ed West

Posted on 06/23/2009 10:06:56 AM PDT by bronxville

There's a Polish joke that goes something like this: "A Russian and German turn up in town. Who do you shoot first?" Answer: "The German, because business comes before pleasure."

Between 1939 and 1945 three million Polish Catholics (as well as three million Polish Jews) were murdered by the two most evil regimes to rule mankind. Of those, the Russians murdered a million, the vast majority prisoners or civilians.

This is the story of 20,000 of them: the officers, policemen and intellectuals who were captured by the Soviets in September 1939 and murdered with a bullet to the head at a NKVD camp in Katyn the following April. It is also the story of how their loved ones fought to challenge the official story that the Nazis had carried out the crime.

The Soviets murdered 14 generals, 24 colonels, 79 lieutenant colonels, 258 majors, 654 captains, 17 naval captains, 3,420 NCOs, 200 pilots, seven chaplains, three landowners, a prince, 43 officials, 85 privates, 20 university professors, 300 physicians, several hundred lawyers, engineers, and teachers, and more than 100 writers and journalists.

The murders were sanctioned by the Soviet politburo and Stalin signed the execution order. We see Stalin's heartless eyes staring down from the wall as the men are dragged down to a basement room where arterial spray covers the wall.

The killings were done methodically, as this film painfully shows. Each man was taken from a jeep, handcuffed and his identification checked. He was then led to a cell and shot in the back of the head. Some Soviet executioners spent hours murdering prisoners one by one. The body was then dragged out of the window and put in piles on waiting trucks, and the next victim was dragged in. It was all very planned and mechanical and, in the Communist way, mind-numbing. Others were brought alive to the mass graves and shot there, their last image being the lifeless corpses of their friends.

The scene is extremely harrowing, but not overplayed or melodramatic. There is no music or sound effect; we simply see tired, scared men, clutching rosaries and praying to God, brutally murdered. The executioners then share cigarettes, before casually bayoneting the survivors while bulldozers cover up the mass grave.

For years Polish patriots maintained that the Soviets had carried out this attack, but the official line in the Eastern Bloc was that the Nazis were responsible. By the late 1980s, however, the lies surrounding the Soviet Union were crumbling along with the regime itself, and in 1990 Mikhail Gorbachev admitted that the NKVD had committed the murders. Russian President Boris Yeltsin passed on the files to the Polish government three years later.

The film begins with a typically Polish dilemma. Civilians are at the end of a bridge trying to escape Nazi occupation; at the other end are civilians escaping the Soviets. The date is September 17, 1939, the day the USSR invaded a Poland already fatally wounded by the German attack. Stalin hated the Poles with murderous passion; he had been in charge of the Soviet invasion of 1922, and the Poles had humiliated the Soviet Union (and him). His revenge was the Nazi-Soviet pact.

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TOPICS: History; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: katyn; poland; polesrussians; russia; sovietunion
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Until 1990 the Soviet Union blamed Nazis for the Katyn massacre of 20,000 Poles
1 posted on 06/23/2009 10:06:56 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: lizol

Ping.


2 posted on 06/23/2009 10:18:27 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: bronxville

So, what’s the name of the film?


3 posted on 06/23/2009 10:27:56 AM PDT by gigster
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Movie name = Karyn... Although the movie received so many good reviews, the company distributing copies of the movie to cinemas across the country is complaining they encounter serious prejudice and hostility. Martio Mazarotto of the company said in an interview that the world of culture and also of distribution of movies within Italy is almost monopolized by extreme leftists, for whom the truth about communist crimes is not a comfortable subject, so they are doing everything they can to suppress the message. The movie by Andrzej Wajda is silenced across Europe, said Mazzarotto. In some countries, companies bought distribution rights and are not showing the movie at all. They bought the movie to keep it away from the public, Mazzarotto argues. Italian culture minister Sandro Bondi, who asked the Venice festival management to screen Katyń in September, says he also thinks the movie is under an intentional boycott from leftist ideologues. http://www.polskieradio.pl/zagranica/news/artykul106623_EU_s_climate_package_a_costly_venture.html European leftists find Wajda's "Katyn" uncomfortable: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2233742/posts I just found it on the News section under another title. The lefties hate it so it must be good. A definite must see...
4 posted on 06/23/2009 10:40:38 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville

Sorry, I see that my post got a little messed up.


5 posted on 06/23/2009 10:41:48 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville

Movie name is “Karyn” - be on the lookout and see it if you can. Let’s support truth-telling movies that the lefties hate.


6 posted on 06/23/2009 10:50:06 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville

When I saw the thread title I thought it was going to be about the Iranian protesters being caught between the Mullahs and the Obama administration.


7 posted on 06/23/2009 10:54:54 AM PDT by liberte
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To: bronxville
The late Ryszard Kapuscinski was a young schoolboy in Poland in 1939 and tells what it was like to experience both occupations in his book Imperium. He also has a powerful section on the Ukrainian famine/genocide.
8 posted on 06/23/2009 11:06:15 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: liberte
"He who fights that Islam should be superior fights in Allah's cause" - Big Mo
9 posted on 06/23/2009 11:15:05 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: Verginius Rufus

I’m hoping this movie is only the beginning of many more, such as, the Ukrainian famine/genocide. It’s time to expose the evil of Communism as they’ve gotten a pass by the lefties for way too long.


10 posted on 06/23/2009 11:19:36 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville

Why is this on the RELIGION Forum?


11 posted on 06/23/2009 11:23:13 AM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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“Between 1939 and 1945 three million Polish Catholics (as well as three million Polish Jews) were murdered by the two most evil regimes to rule mankind. Of those, the Russians murdered a million, the vast majority prisoners or civilians.”

2nd paragraph in the article.


12 posted on 06/23/2009 12:43:19 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: All; mstar; se99tp; AdvisorB; onedoug; AnalogReigns; The_Media_never_lie; dixiebelle; voteNRA; ...
I've just found this on YouTube - it's the full "Katyn" movie with English subtitles, divided in 12 parts (about 10 minutes each).

A must see for everyone interested in the modern history of Poland and this part of the world.

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

Part 7

Part 8

Part 9

Part 10

Part 11

Part 12


13 posted on 06/23/2009 12:55:52 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

Great - thanks.


14 posted on 06/23/2009 2:33:02 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville
- Katyn Memorial - Baltimore. I think there are two in Baltimore. http://culture.polishsite.us/articles/art245fr.htm
15 posted on 06/23/2009 2:35:38 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville

I think you mean “Katyn”.


16 posted on 06/23/2009 2:45:09 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: bronxville
Gen. Stefaniak and Fr. Francis Okroy, Katyn Memorial Chaplain. Fr. Okroy is a Polish WWII veteran and a survivor of the infamous Nazi German Dachau concentration camp.
17 posted on 06/23/2009 2:46:21 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville
A clearer picture of the Katyn Memorial in Baltimore
18 posted on 06/23/2009 2:54:25 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: PzLdr

Yes, thanks. :)


19 posted on 06/23/2009 2:55:36 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville

My immediate ancestors are from South-Eastern Poland (Lublin), and what is now the Ukraine, in Volhynia.
We lost many people there.
The fact that the Leftists don’t want this film distributed
does not surprise me in the least bit.
They are up to their old, feeble attempts to white-wash their despicable place in history.
They have always been moral cowards, and are not likely to change their yellow stripes anytime soon.


20 posted on 06/23/2009 5:19:40 PM PDT by gigster
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