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The God Chasers; The Shack; He Loves Me; Quix Commentary on 3 books
Quix & books listed ^ | 15 JUL 2009, 2000 | Quix, Tommy Tenney, William P Young, Wayne Jacobsen,

Posted on 07/14/2009 11:41:13 PM PDT by Quix

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To: JohnnyM; Alamo-Girl; betty boop

The PURPOSE and FOCUS in THE SHACK

was

NOT

to illustrate God’s authority—though actually—it did quite Biblically and quite well, imho.

However, for authoritarIANs, I can see where the authority fix was lacking to their standards.

In my research on religiosity, authoritaRIANS were NOT the most intrinsically, initimately related to God NOR were they the most robustly and authentically Christian. They tended to be much more EXTRINSICS.

In terms of religiosity—the folks who are MOST biggoted, narrow, rigid, hostile, angry, brittle, abusive, etc. by far are those who are:

INDISCRIMMINANTLY ANTI-RELIGIOUS . . . i.e. atheists, agnostics etc.

Those who are NEXT most biggoted, narrow, rigid, hostile, angry, brittle, abusive, etc. but significantly less

are the

EXTRINSIC religionists . . . who also happen to be the most authoritarian in their values, lifestyles, priorities. They put religion on as a coat for appearances, for business etc.

The folks who are the LEAST biggoted, narrow, rigid, hostile, angry, brittle, abusive, etc. . . . different from the most by at least 2 standard deviations on average . . . are the

INTRINSIC RELIGIONISTS. These are the folks who have God in their hearts and integrate Him into every area and decision of their lives.

Guess who make the best parents with children excelling the most and the least in trouble.

authoritaTIVE parents.

AuthoritaRIAN parents are typically among the worst. They generate the most rebellion because they are heavily into DISCIPLINE WITHOUT RELATIONSHIP.

The author of THE SHACK rightly emphasized RELATIONSHIP in his book to his children. That works BEST with God Almighty, too.

God is not into coerced, demanded, puppet, robot relationships with His children.

CHRIST DIED THAT WE MIGHT BE FRIENDS OF GOD; JOINT HEIRS.


41 posted on 07/15/2009 8:34:46 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
You pinged me/posted to me first on this thread.

No, I didn't.


To: All; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Gamecock
18 posted on 07/15/2009 6:00:13 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("I always longed for repose and quiet" - John Calvin)

42 posted on 07/15/2009 8:42:33 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("I always longed for repose and quiet" - John Calvin)
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To: Quix
you take things WAY too personally.

A little leaven, leavens the whole lump of dough. 95% of The Shack could be spot on, but it's that 5% people have to worry about. I'm just warning against taking this book as the gospel truth or elevating it to the level of Scripture.

It seems that anyone that has issues with the book is all the sudden some sort of monster who has evil motives, and it is simply not the case.

I have issues with a book that says this about God:

“Mack was surprised. ‘How can that be? Why would the God of the universe want to be submitted to me?’”

So sue me.

JM
43 posted on 07/15/2009 8:49:43 AM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: Quix
Stay Out of ‘The Shack’

"The Shack" Just Another Heretical Book

44 posted on 07/15/2009 9:00:46 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: JohnnyM

Do you think the author’s motive for writing The Shack is evil?


45 posted on 07/15/2009 9:06:57 AM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren
No, and I dont think I implied or said anything to that effect.

JM
46 posted on 07/15/2009 9:09:15 AM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: Quix; All

Quix, thanks so much.

= = =
So often, these days, I think about the question Jesus asked in Luke 18,

WHEN THE SON OF MAN RETURNS, WILL HE FIND FAITH ON THE EARTH?

I also think of the parable of the ten virgins. Five were wise, and kept their lamps filled with oil and burning, watching for the Bridegroom. The other five fell asleep.

To be one of the five wise virgins, one must guard against all the worldly distractions that would suck us dry, one must also guard against falling asleep, which is what the five foolish virgins did. [Matthew 25.]

May we stay awake, may we be burning brightly, may we love the LORD totally and unceasingly.

May we overcome till the end, may we be found in Him.


47 posted on 07/15/2009 9:15:23 AM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: JohnnyM

No.

It’s a novel. It was written primarily and first only to his children.

I does not have anything remotely close to the place of Scripture, to me.

I just hate seeing folks up in arms over little to nothing or because of distorting a great book.

Christ washed the feet of His disciples. That was a huge degree of “submission” in that culture.

I found nothing of significance in the book that could not be referenced to Scripture.

Whether the reference to Scripture would satisfy everyone is a whole different level of craziness.

I’ve never read any nonBible book that I agreed with 100%.

Have you?

I don’t think folks who have issues with the book are monsters.

You made an issue of

AUTHORITY.

That’s something I have some professional experience with studying and researching.

You pressed the button on that data file.

Cheers.


49 posted on 07/15/2009 9:33:17 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Do not make the thread "about" individual Freepers. That is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

50 posted on 07/15/2009 9:34:40 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Salvation

I’ve already commented on Colson’s very weak critique above.

I found that he made much ado about nothing. It was not his usual great standard of critique, imho.

It was almost prissy.

almost.


51 posted on 07/15/2009 9:35:26 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Salvation

Have you read THE SHACK?


52 posted on 07/15/2009 9:35:52 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Joya

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

THX.


53 posted on 07/15/2009 9:36:34 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Religion Moderator

Aye aye.

I should have responded by FREEPMAIL.

Sorry. I was wrong.


54 posted on 07/15/2009 9:37:46 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

No, but I was in a book club that did. It seemed a lot of people got something out of it. I considered it heretical and decided not to put such nonsense as three women posing as the Trinity into my brain.

But, that’s me! (No offense to those who have read it.)


55 posted on 07/15/2009 9:40:37 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

I was prepared to be quite hostile to it as heretical when I began it.

I was pleasantly surprised.

I think C.S. Lewis takes more liberties in Narnia than the SHACK does.


56 posted on 07/15/2009 9:44:20 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

There was also a review on Catholic Media Review that said it stronger. I just didn’t post it.

I also got it from a third source — and when three Catholic sources denounce something, all Catholics need to take notice.

BTW, I did pass out the printouts from those sites to the book club. I have since read the other books that they are reading including one that is mostly Christian and does not espouse Catholic beliefs.


57 posted on 07/15/2009 9:45:04 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

I don’t think I’d have chosen Aunt Jemima to be the God figure in a novel of mine.

However, given his emphasis and goal of illustrating God’s nurturing Loving qualities, I don’t have a big problem allowing that literary device.

It worked OK, for me.


58 posted on 07/15/2009 9:45:31 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
The next book we are reading is "Left to Tell" by Imaculee Ilibagiza about her experiences in Rwanda during the turmoil there. It looks fascinating.
59 posted on 07/15/2009 9:46:31 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

Well, I think you know that I’m not all that impressed with Roman Catholic sources, including The Vatican if the latest encyclical is any evidence.


60 posted on 07/15/2009 9:47:04 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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