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Is a “Cashless Society” a Sign of the End?
American Vision ^ | July 20, 2009 | Gary DeMar

Posted on 07/20/2009 12:16:39 PM PDT by topcat54

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To: raynearhood; topcat54
Funny, I remember being called a Naysayer, a demon, a satanist, a hater of God, as well as being told I'm on the fast track to a place of Sulfur and suffering... all said without so much as a warning...

If this happened on the Religion Forum, Freepmail me the links so that I can remove the posts and follow-up.

On the other point, if the poster of the RF article wishes to exclude anyone his only option is to make the thread a specific "caucus." But he must be careful not to mention the beliefs of those outside the caucus or else the thread must be opened so that the others may speak for themselves.

141 posted on 07/22/2009 10:29:30 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
For a statement to be "making it personal" on the Religion Forum it MUST be speaking of another Freeper, personally.

But they must not let that hate surface on the Religion Forum. Personal attacks must not be addressed to other Freepers, personally.

Just for clarification, if such comments are directed to a group of FReepers, referring to them as such (for example, "the posters in this thread..." or "the in this thread..."), as opposed to by some other grouping such as their common philosophy/theology/etc., does it still constitute "making it personal?"

For example, if I said "the infralapsarians in this thread are clearly willing to lie to cover up their shameful, heinous teachings, and it's obvious they are complete idiots" would that constitute a personal attack?

142 posted on 07/22/2009 11:19:51 AM PDT by Frumanchu (God's justice does not demand second chances)
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To: Frumanchu
That second parenthetical phrase should read: "the <insert group> in this thread..."
143 posted on 07/22/2009 11:21:19 AM PDT by Frumanchu (God's justice does not demand second chances)
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To: just me

bttt


144 posted on 07/22/2009 11:22:37 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Frumanchu

Technically, no, it is not making it personal - but it pushes the envelope and so I might pull the post anyway for trouble-making, to avoid a flame war.


145 posted on 07/22/2009 11:34:05 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Frumanchu
For example, if I said "the infralapsarians in this thread are clearly willing to lie to cover up their shameful, heinous teachings, and it's obvious they are complete idiots" would that constitute a personal attack?

Just like any sin, such a statement and its thinking has already been paid for by Christ in His redemptive work on the Cross. Those who allow themselves such thinking don't elevate themselves, but merely give just cause for Christ, at the bema seat, to place one more reward created in eternity past, on the shelf as an eternal memorial of the foolishness of any person who thinks anything other than through faith in Christ.

146 posted on 07/22/2009 7:39:34 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

Interesting plausible perspective.

It is interesting how convoluted and mangled reality in general can get on such threads.

Far too often, the examples cited are off the wall and significantly unrelated to any real post.


147 posted on 07/22/2009 9:27:09 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
"...Of course, Christian Jews avoided the “mark of the beast” and showed their true allegiance to Jesus, “having His name and the name of his father written on their foreheads” (Rev. 14:1)."

From the article. Interesting point is the KJV+ translation doesn't mention the name of Christ being written on their foreheads, but the American Standard Version does. Neither do many Greek New Testaments.

Also the last paragraph of the article confuses Jesus Christ as a temple vice his body as a temple for God, as well as the role of Christ as our High Priest where believers are now Priests able to enter the temple due to the more perfect sacrifice already offered.

148 posted on 07/23/2009 5:05:03 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr; airborne; AngieGal; auggy; bearsgirl90; bethtopaz; BigBadWolf; Blogger; bradthebuilder; ...

INDEED.

I found the article wholesale and thoroughly without redeeming social of intellectual value at all. The convoluted pseudo-logic of it was embarrassingly poor.

It had such little to no congruence with the Bible that it was embarrassing that any Christian would think it had something to do with The Biblical world view.

There’s NO LOGICAL WAY folks can, with a truly Christian and Biblical world view NEGATE ALMIGHTY GOD’S ASSERTION that HIS PROMISES TO THE CHILDREN OF JACOB WILL ENDURE [AT LEAST—my interpretation] AS LONG AS THE SUN, MOON AND STARS. God could not have made the durability of those EVERLASTING PROMISES TO THE CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB ANY MORE EMPHATIC OR PLAINER.

Yet, satan has seduced some shallow thinking folks into believing otherwise IN SPITE OF PLAIN SCRIPTURE.

It still boggles my mind.

Thankfully, more and more folks are waking up to the importance of Jerusalem in our era—just as Scripture predicted.

More and more folks are realizing that dozens and dozens of Biblical prophecies yet to be fulfilled ARE BEING LITERALLY FULFILLED RIGHT BEFORE THEIR EYES in the daily news.

More and more folks realize that God is serious about fulfilling HIS WORD TO THE LAST JOT AND TITTLE.

More and more folks realize that the satanic world government prophesied in Scripture is already in power and looming closer and closer to being sprung overtly on the whole planet with great tyranny just as Scripture predicted.

More and more folks realize that the Mark of The Beast has been in the works for a long time amongst the globalists and that it is about to be sprung on the world overtly.

More and more folks realize that the traitorous globalist leaders ref’d in my tagline are diligently, horrifically about fulfilling Biblical prophecy about the satanic government and have been for at least a hundred years.

More and more folks realize that THESE END TIMES ARE THE BIBLICAL END TIMES AND ARE LIKE NONE OTHER EVER AND CERTAINLY LIKE NONE OTHER IN THE LAST 2000 YEARS. That is really something a 10 year old can wrap his mind around but it seems to escape folks with toooooo much cemetary/seminary mental pollution! LOL.

More and more folks realize that there’s a blessing THAT GOD ATTACHES TO THOSE WHO BLESS THE CHILDREN OF JACOB; WHO PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM—far more than those who pray for the peace of New York, or San Francisco or Tokyo etc.

More and more folks realize that the march of current history in the making toward Armageddon is going to race along regardless of how many REPLACEMENTARIANS, preterists, a-mills, post-mills and run-of-the-mills stand gaping with their jaws around their ankles at the speeding bullet train dragging the world toward hell.

More and more folks realize that the “signs in the heavens” are unprecedented in the last 2,000 years and longer.

More and more folks realize that the spread of knowledge over the globe is unprecedented in all of knowable history.

More and more folks realize that travel over the globe is unprecedented in all of knowable history.

More and more folks realize that the Biblical prophecies on those scores were literally true and have been literally fulfilled.

More and more folks realize that dozens of other literal prophecies are increasingly cocked ready for speedy fulfillment.

Of course, there will always be some who stubbornly insist on remaining willfully blind, willfully ignorant, willfully clueless, willfully heretical . . . whether out of pride, stubbornness, idolatry of their own ideas, legalism, ATTACHMENT DISORDER or whatever excuses.

God have mercy.

BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.

MAY THE LORD PRESERVE ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM AS A GLORY TO HIMSELF AS HE DESIGNED HER TO BE.


149 posted on 07/23/2009 7:39:42 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54; Religion Moderator; Lee N. Field; Frumanchu; Alex Murphy; raynearhood; Quix
I started the thread and you’ve permitted it to be hijacked by a name-calling whiner.

It is typical of your "flame baiting" gary demar threads.

And you expected no one to call you on it.

Now you are attempting to hide behind the skirts of the Religion Moderator.

Seek the face of the L-rd and ask Him for some Chesed( Lovingkindness ).

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
150 posted on 07/23/2009 8:20:06 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Do not let this thread become "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

151 posted on 07/23/2009 8:24:15 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
Perhaps these "flame baiting" gary demar threads
should be designated as a caucus.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

152 posted on 07/23/2009 8:35:04 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

That’s not possible because they disucss the opposing views . . . which quite logically and reasonably deserve a chance to defend their perspectives.

I think the most we can do is to provide for every man an answer as Peter mentioned.

Hopefully we can do so as charitably as possible as well as

. . . as memorably and vividly as possible.


153 posted on 07/23/2009 9:08:25 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54
I suppose we "naysayers" will simply have to endure.

I do love how not having God's promises fulfilled in the time and manner a particular group interprets automatically means we advocate said promises going completely unfulfilled, as though there is only one possible interpretation of prophetic statements. Calls to mind another group in Biblical times that had the same tragic problem...

154 posted on 07/23/2009 9:16:41 AM PDT by Frumanchu (God's justice does not demand second chances)
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To: Quix
Is a “Cashless Society” a Sign of the End?

No.

155 posted on 07/23/2009 1:44:48 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (What would John Lennon do?)
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To: Jeremiah Jr

Would you care to elaborate?


156 posted on 07/23/2009 6:56:25 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Frumanchu; airborne; AngieGal; auggy; bearsgirl90; bethtopaz; BigBadWolf; Blogger; ...
" . . . means we advocate said promises going completely unfulfilled, . . ."

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UHHHHHHHHHHH, NO! NOT by a long shot! LOL.

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Most Preterists, A-mils, Post-mils, REPLACEMENTARIANS en masse hereon have persistently INSISTED that all but a tiny miniority of Biblical prophecies re Israel and the END TIMES were ALREADY FULFILLED in A.D. 70.

So, clearly, the above assertion is utter irrational nonsense by their own testimony and their own documents.

Unsurprisingly, of course. It wouldn't make much sense for us to assert that such folks advocate such prophecies going unfulfilled when they have clearly and relentlessly insisted THEY WERE ALREADY FULFILLED circa 70 A.D.

Their passion seems to be making NONSENSE.

Ours is to make Biblical, logical and historical sense.

157 posted on 07/23/2009 7:07:17 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; Religion Moderator
Perhaps I did not make myself clear enough the first time.

DO NOT PING ME TO ANY MORE POSTS IN THIS THREAD.

158 posted on 07/23/2009 7:52:44 PM PDT by Frumanchu (God's justice does not demand second chances)
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To: Frumanchu; Religion Moderator

I will continue to respond to any post on this or any other thread in a fitting and reasonable fashion according to the policy and rules of FR and the Religion Forum.

If that includes a post you have posted, so be it.

This happens to be a public forum. Not anyone’s personal fifedom.


159 posted on 07/23/2009 8:05:17 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

And we see how Antichrist can be not saying it is zero just a peek


160 posted on 07/23/2009 8:12:39 PM PDT by mel
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