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Church Musicians Tune Up for Changes in Liturgy
ncr ^ | July 24, 2009 | Amy Kiley

Posted on 07/24/2009 10:25:33 AM PDT by NYer

CHICAGO — At a gathering of Church composers and musicians recently, Msgr. Anthony Sherman asked how many people had looked at the revised order of the Mass. Almost everyone raised a hand.

Msgr. Sherman, the executive director of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Secretariat of Divine Worship, might have predicted the reaction during his breakout session at the National Association of Pastoral Musicians Convention in Chicago. After all, new Mass texts require new music — and pastoral musicians are preparing to provide it.

“Given that music is integral to the celebration of liturgy, composers will have an important role to play in introducing worshippers to the revised translations of the order of Mass found in the forthcoming edition of the Roman Missal,” explained composer Steven Janco, who directs the church music and liturgy program at Saint Joseph’s College in Rensselaer, Ind. “Most current settings will require new music for the Gloria and new or adapted memorial acclamation settings. Only a few words of the Holy, Holy, Holy will change, so many existing settings will be adapted rather easily by composers.”

Janco has already begun revising his “Mass of the Angels and Saints” and “Mass of Redemption.” His publishers — World Library Publications and GIA Publications — have asked him for versions that use the revised order of the Mass. Starting fresh with the new translation, Janco is also composing a new setting he calls “Mass of Wisdom.”

Msgr. Sherman explained why the Gloria is garnering special attention: “When the initial translation of the Gloria was done, the Latin structure was abandoned and rearranged. In this new translation … it has been transposed to be closer to the original Latin text.” Changing that structure means the words no longer fit the music, and new musical settings are necessary.

The memorial acclamations will also require new music since three of those texts saw significant alteration in the translating process. Acclamation A, “Christ has died; Christ is risen; Christ will come again,” is pending approval as an additional proposal. Kelly Dobbs Mickus, GIA senior editor and National Association of Pastoral Musicians publicity committee chairwoman, explained: “Composers are trying to do settings, and they don’t know whether or not to set that. So, we’ve been asking them to set it, and if we need it, we need it — and if we don’t, we don’t.”

Since Marty Haugen set that acclamation in his well-known “Mass of Creation,” it is frequently used in the United States. On the other hand, it is the only memorial acclamation in the post-Vatican II Roman Missal that speaks of Jesus in the third person rather than the second. It has no counterpart in the Latin Missal.

Dobbs Mickus said other music will require revisions instead of rewrites. “We intend to try to keep the music as much like the original as possible,” she said, noting that doing so could help congregations participate more easily. “In the case of the Holy, Holy, that’s fairly easy to do. The changes are not such that they’re going to require a lot of different notes and different rhythms.”

Economics

Since most worship resources contain Mass settings, the translation process is also having a fiscal affect on the Catholic music publishing industry.

“We have had a slump in sales because of our hymnal business,” Dobbs Mickus said. She noted that hymnals are an investment — and many parishes do not want to repeat that investment when the revised Roman Missal is approved for use. That means churches are putting off purchases, but eventual implementation of the new text could mean sales down the line.

In the meantime, Dobbs Mickus said, GIA is promising to give its customers free hymnal inserts with the new text and music once the translations come into use. She said the publisher hopes that will encourage parishes to buy hymnals now.

When the revised translations of the Roman Missal are approved, music directors and liturgists will have to teach their congregations to use the new texts and music.

Msgr. Sherman said, “You’re going to have to have cards, you know, to start this … but I think about two months after we’re under way, people won’t even realize [the changes], but we’re still going to have to keep the cards because there could be a slight slip every once in a while.”

Robert Noble, director of music at St. John Nepomuk Church in Yukon, Okla., already has a plan for introducing the new text and music to his parish. “It takes my congregation about a month to comfortably learn all of the different acclamations from one setting, then a couple more months for them to really ‘own’ it. The only difference is the new text,” he said. “As far as the new chants for the dialogues, I will help my pastor learn them first. After that, the choir — then the congregation.”

Basically, he said, “We’ll learn new Mass settings in the same way we’ve learned them in the past.”

Amy Kiley writes from

Romeoville, Illinois.


INFORMATION For more information on the revised Roman Missal, visit USCCB.org/liturgy/missalformation/.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: christianmusic; hymns; liturgy; music; sacredmusic
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1 posted on 07/24/2009 10:25:33 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Liturgy update ping!


2 posted on 07/24/2009 10:26:29 AM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
Mine is similar to this.


3 posted on 07/24/2009 10:36:44 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: NYer

Church musicians should always be in tune.


4 posted on 07/24/2009 10:41:31 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (I eat Cheerios's with out a Prescription!)
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To: NYer

Church musicians should always be in tune.


5 posted on 07/24/2009 10:41:40 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (I eat Cheerios's with out a Prescription!)
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To: wastedyears

When I was younger electric instruments and anything beyond a piano or organ seemed wrong to me. Last week I went to the teen mass of my new parish and loved the sound of the happy musical worship. It’s how I think Heaven would sound. But, maybe I just say that because we were singing Matt Mahr songs. :)


6 posted on 07/24/2009 10:46:13 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: ThomasThomas

All musicians should always be in tune.


7 posted on 07/24/2009 10:50:05 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: NYer

Ruthenian Byzantine Rite just keeps using the same Carpathian Plainchant.” We don’t have to worry about changing things back and forth. We sing what this Rite has sung for generations. By St. John Chrysostom.


8 posted on 07/24/2009 10:51:13 AM PDT by redhead (You don't have to be eaten by a bear to know he WILL eat you...Check the Half-Baked Sourdough!)
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To: HungarianGypsy

Are you talking about a church setting?


9 posted on 07/24/2009 11:00:19 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: wastedyears

Yes. Teen Mass.


10 posted on 07/24/2009 11:04:04 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: redhead

Amen!! Thank you . That is EXACTLY why I am Melkite. Nothing has changed in many, many centuries. It is as beautiful now as it was when St. John Chrysostom and St. Basil were alive.


11 posted on 07/24/2009 11:07:39 AM PDT by Truelove (qui tacet consentit)
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To: NYer
WWMHD?

(What would Marty Haugen do?)

12 posted on 07/24/2009 11:30:04 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: wastedyears

what year and when was it made? And are you in California or Florida (terrazzo)?


13 posted on 07/24/2009 11:31:19 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
WWMHD?

Hopefully, go away. FAR away.

14 posted on 07/24/2009 11:34:46 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer
Changing that structure means the words no longer fit the music, and new musical settings are necessary.

Good. Maybe we'll get less dreck this time.

Of course, if we just used CHANT, we wouldn't have to struggle to fit the words to pop music . . . . with a good chant tone (Gregorian OR Anglican), you can chant anything from a Psalm to a grocery list to the portion of the British Highway Code pertaining to pedestrians to The Weather Forecast.

15 posted on 07/24/2009 11:39:27 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

*snort* I do like Gregorian Chant, but then I also love Anglican High Church hymns (William Byrd, Ralph Vaughn Williams), as well as some of the popular music. What I DON’T particularly like, is what our daughter describes as “Jesus is my boyfriend” music. ;o)


16 posted on 07/24/2009 11:50:46 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
The Pope was a lot more restrained about the JIMBF music than I would have been . . . . he just pointed out why it is musically and emotionally unsuitable for the liturgy. I would have had the sheet music and a few CDs publicly burned and excommunicated the authors and composers and told them they were lucky not to be burned right alongside their wicked works . . . . (well, not really, but a girl can dream, can't she?)

Good thing he's the Pope and not I (aside from the obviously disqualifying factors)!

17 posted on 07/24/2009 11:58:49 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: SuziQ
We had a Purcell-and-Byrd extravaganza last Sunday.

I had loaned our choirmaster a DVD of the Clare College choir singing Purcell's Funeral Sentences and he was inspired to make it an all-17th-century Sunday!

18 posted on 07/24/2009 12:00:06 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
Oh, I'm jealous! I have the CD "Faire is the Heaven" by John Rutter and the Cambridge Singers, and I LOVE it! I keep trying to get our choir to do Personant Hodie, and "Gabriel's Message", for Christmas. Hmmm. I'll drop that hint again, since it looks as though we'll still be here for another Midnight Mass!
19 posted on 07/24/2009 12:57:13 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Good luck! There's lots of old Christmas music, you ought to be able to talk your man into something.

We did a Christmas program awhile back that had a really good mix of old and new music. Costeley's "Allon, Gay Bergeres", some Gregorian chant "Hodie Christus Natus Est", Tavener's "The Lamb", Adam's "O Holy Night" . . . quite a mix but all good music.

20 posted on 07/24/2009 1:58:39 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother; Desdemona
Of course, if we just used CHANT, we wouldn't have to struggle to fit the words to pop music

Did you catch Fr. Joel Martin, OSB on EWTN Live, Wednesday night? The topic of the show wass "The Revival of Gregorian Chant." He spoke about the Musica Sacra web site which I'm sure would be of great interest to you. It is an association of Catholic musicians, and those who have a special interest in music and liturgy, active in advancing Gregorian chant, Renaissance polyphony, and other forms of sacred music. Here is the link:

MUSICA SACRA

21 posted on 07/24/2009 2:31:19 PM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Oh, we do lovely music for Christmas! In fact, we did “Hodie, Christus Natus Est” this past year! We do some Early, but mostly Modern music. We’ve done at least one John Rutter piece each Christmas, which is fine by me! For both of the last two Christmases we also did “Rorate Caeli”, and it was just beautiful!


22 posted on 07/24/2009 2:34:48 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: NYer

Our choirmaster is big into Musica Sacra. He’s there a LOT. It’s an extremely valuable resource for anybody who’s serious about REAL church music.


23 posted on 07/24/2009 3:51:41 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: the invisib1e hand

It was made in 2003; Mexican manufacture. I’m in NYC


24 posted on 07/24/2009 4:09:50 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: NYer

**A, “Christ has died; Christ is risen; Christ will come again,” is pending approval as an additional proposal. Kelly Dobbs Mickus, GIA senior editor and National Association of Pastoral Musicians publicity committee chairwoman, explained: “Composers are trying to do settings, and they don’t know whether or not to set that. So, we’ve been asking them to set it, and if we need it, we need it — and if we don’t, we don’t.” **

Oh, I pray they dump this. I hate it and will not sing it.


25 posted on 07/24/2009 6:31:19 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: NYer

**Since Marty Haugen set that acclamation in his well-known “Mass of Creation,” it is frequently used in the United States. On the other hand, it is the only memorial acclamation in the post-Vatican II Roman Missal that speaks of Jesus in the third person rather than the second. It has no counterpart in the Latin Missal. **

I just re-read this and found this. Please, please, bishops, dump it.


26 posted on 07/24/2009 6:35:15 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Barfaroni......I don’t want to know what he would do. Get this as close to the Latin as possible!


27 posted on 07/24/2009 6:37:59 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; NYer; SuziQ; Tax-chick; Truelove; HungarianGypsy; redhead
**“Christ has died; Christ is risen; Christ will come again,” **

Let's all write, email, call, etc. our bishops and ask them to get rid of this. (Even if we know it won't happen right now, the seed will be planted!)

Bishops listed by Diocese

Bishops by Name

Bishops listed by state

28 posted on 07/24/2009 6:45:31 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: NYer

I wish they’d dump the Leonard Cohen Hallelujah. Every time I hear it my mind wanders to that fourth verse.


29 posted on 07/24/2009 8:10:04 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: redhead

I attended the Ruthenian Liturgy for years here in Portland but my family wanted to continue in the neighborhood Latin Rite parish. I love the Eastern Rite. I have heard that indeed changes were made in the last year or so. It is upsetting many worshippers because the changes were unnecessary and unauthentic. What were the changes?


30 posted on 07/24/2009 9:44:03 PM PDT by Klondike
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To: NYer

Cue “The Vatican Rag” by Tom Lehrer.


31 posted on 07/24/2009 9:51:34 PM PDT by PLMerite (Speak Truth to Evil.)
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To: Klondike
"I have heard that indeed changes were made in the last year or so. It is upsetting many worshippers because the changes were unnecessary and unauthentic. What were the changes?"

Actually, the changes were really minor. We say "Theotokos" instead of "Mother of God," and instead of saying "May our lips be filled..." we sing "May our mouths be filled..." The processions and rites are still all the same. I am not aware of other changes beyond some translation adjustments.

I know what you mean about loving the Rite.

32 posted on 07/24/2009 11:13:11 PM PDT by redhead (You don't have to be eaten by a bear to know he WILL eat you...Check the Half-Baked Sourdough!)
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To: Klondike; redhead
I love the Eastern Rite.

The Vatican II Council declared that "all should realize it is of supreme importance to understand, venerate, preserve, and foster the exceedingly rich liturgical and spiritual heritage of the Eastern churches, in order faithfully to preserve the fullness of Christian tradition" (Unitatis Redintegrato, 15). These are the jewels in the crown of the Catholic Church.

Like freeper redhead, I too am a RC that has found a home in the East. More than 5 years ago, I joined a Maronite Catholic Church; it has been a veritable blessing in my life. I especially appreciate the fixed liturgical calendar. Its constancy is most welcome, especially after experiencing 40 years of continual change in the Latin rite liturgy.

33 posted on 07/25/2009 5:20:22 AM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
"I especially appreciate the fixed liturgical calendar. Its constancy is most welcome, especially after experiencing 40 years of continual change in the Latin rite liturgy."

Because of Bl. Theodore's mission status and the distance to the mother parish, we sometimes have our fixed feasts transferred to the nearest Sunday by the bishop. It makes it easier for us to get to Liturgy for that feast, but as a cantor, I have to say that it can sure COMPLICATE the music! I've been singing with the cantors for almost two years, and I'm still unsure of what goes where. Father does a good job of keeping us supplied with a list and page numbers, so I can only chalk up my lack of confidence to lack of confidence. LOL!

I especially love the reverence of the prayers, and all the smells, bells, and processions, and ESPECIALLY mirovanjie! (anointing with the Oil of Gladness). I thank God every Sunday for putting this little parish where I could find it.

34 posted on 07/25/2009 10:03:13 AM PDT by redhead (You don't have to be eaten by a bear to know he WILL eat you...Check the Half-Baked Sourdough!)
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To: redhead

Congratulations on joining the cantors! Every voice is a shared gift. It’s wonderful to hear how you have immersed yourself in the parish and been joyfully blessed with increased faith.


35 posted on 07/25/2009 1:05:52 PM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer; AnAmericanMother
Sorry I haven't been around. One of my siblings is a new parent as of Wednesday and things have been nutty.

Some of us have been preparing for this for a while - and the moaning started when we heard that Marty Haugen was working to shoe-horn the "new" words into the Mass of Cremation.

We did a simple, modern, antiphonal chant Gloria this morning and it worked just fine - and only took two minutes. Why do composers feel the need to make it all so complicated?

36 posted on 07/26/2009 1:27:10 PM PDT by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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To: Desdemona
Q: Why do composers feel the need to make it all so complicated?

A: Ego.

I HOPE we will get rid of the Massive Cremation when they change the words, and just use our music director's own-composed Mass. It's chant based, the melody is very simple, but the harmonies are out of this world. So the congregation gets a simple melody, and the choir gets to play. Everybody's happy.

And since it's chant-based, it's a very simple matter to adjust it slightly for the new words! I'm sure he's up to the task.

37 posted on 07/26/2009 1:37:14 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: PLMerite
"You can do whatever you want if
You have cleared it with the Pontiff.
Everybody sing his own Kyrie Eleison,
Doin' the Vatican Rag!"

I knew that one years before I became a Catholic. It's still a hoot. Boy did Lehrer have that whole thing pegged!

38 posted on 07/26/2009 1:38:40 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: wastedyears
Here is what I use on Sunday's


My typical gear

39 posted on 07/26/2009 1:41:35 PM PDT by Gone_Postal ("Men who say it cbump for laterannot be done, should not interupt those doing it.")
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To: AnAmericanMother

We do different settings for different seasons. Unfortunately the Mass of Cremation is in the rotation.


40 posted on 07/26/2009 1:43:09 PM PDT by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Hardly anything Leonard Cohen ever wrote was fit for church. ("Sisters of Mercy", anybody?)

I'm surprised the sheet music doesn't just burst into flame.

41 posted on 07/26/2009 1:43:41 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Desdemona

Congrats on being an Aunt! It’s one of the best jobs there is.


42 posted on 07/26/2009 1:44:26 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Desdemona
One of my siblings is a new parent as of Wednesday and things have been nutty.

Auguri! Boy or girl?

43 posted on 07/26/2009 1:45:28 PM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: Desdemona
Have the manager take Marty out of the rotation and send him to the showers. He's been pitching too long as it is.

We had to sing it today because the congregation LIKES it. I think they're just accustomed to it.

Our music director has it pegged. He said, "The very first time I heard it, I knew it was awful and everybody was going to love it!"

44 posted on 07/26/2009 1:46:31 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: redhead
Don't worry too much about cantoring.

I nearly drove myself into a frenzy trying to adjust to the switch from Episcopalian cantoring to Catholic cantoring. But I finally took to heart our music director's words -- if you make a mistake, so long as you don't throw up your hands and shriek "OMG! NOES!" chance are nobody outside the choir will know you made a mistake. This turned out to be quite true, so now I don't worry any more.

(I still cantor with a Brit accent though, even though my speaking accent is VERY Southern!)

45 posted on 07/26/2009 1:49:45 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
"I nearly drove myself into a frenzy trying to adjust to the switch from Episcopalian cantoring to Catholic cantoring. But I finally took to heart our music director's words -- if you make a mistake, so long as you don't throw up your hands and shriek "OMG! NOES!" chance are nobody outside the choir will know you made a mistake. This turned out to be quite true, so now I don't worry any more."

LOL! This has been my philosophy all along. 9 times out of 10, we are the only ones who can read the music, so let it go. Cantoring in the Byzantine Rite is a little different, since the entire service is sung. The only "solo" is by the Lector, who chants the First Reading. But we have no instruments and no prep time, so we have to be able to "cold read" the day's special parts. No tin ears in the schola, thank God, but several in the congregation. Sometimes we get some strange little harmonies going.

46 posted on 07/26/2009 2:01:37 PM PDT by redhead (You don't have to be eaten by a bear to know he WILL eat you...Check the Half-Baked Sourdough!)
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To: AnAmericanMother; NYer

Boy. Everybody’s healthy.


47 posted on 07/26/2009 2:03:47 PM PDT by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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To: Desdemona

Hurrah! Is this her first?


48 posted on 07/26/2009 2:07:29 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Everybody’s first, so he’s going to be a bit spoiled.


49 posted on 07/26/2009 2:08:20 PM PDT by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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To: Gone_Postal

Is that Marshall a Valvestate?


50 posted on 07/26/2009 2:09:48 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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