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To: MarkBsnr

“The notion of personal fellowship and relationship did not exist in early Christianity; it did not exist until relatively recently; it is not Scriptural and it is not Traditional.”

Tell the Apostle Paul.

“For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 15For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” 16 The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God...”


414 posted on 08/04/2009 8:04:36 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Mr Rogers

***“The notion of personal fellowship and relationship did not exist in early Christianity; it did not exist until relatively recently; it is not Scriptural and it is not Traditional.”***

The verses you quote do not mean what you say they mean. The English is lacking.

***“For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 15For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” 16 The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God...”***

Let us go and find all those who are called sons of God.

Job 1:
6 Now on a certain day, when the sons of God came to stand before the Lord, Satan also was present among them.

Sons of God here are angels.

Job 2:1 And it came to pass, when on a certain day the sons of God came, and stood before the Lord, and Satan came amongst them, and stood in his sight, 2 That the Lord said to Satan: Whence comest thou? And he answered, and said: I have gone round about the earth, and walked through it.

More angels.

Psalm 88:7 For who in the clouds can be compared to the Lord: or who among the sons of God shall be like to God?

Just and pious men.

Deuteronomy 14:50: the nation of Israel.

All of the kings holding their rule from God in the OT were called sons of God. The OT Giants were called sons of God.

Does God have a personal fellowship and relationship with the Giants? The angels? Every single member of the House of Israel? C’mon, let’s do better than this.


417 posted on 08/04/2009 8:19:44 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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