Posted on 09/02/2009 3:44:41 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
In the 1980s when I lived in a state near a ward/stake house, the mormons harassed me at my house a couple of times a month...
Sauying no doesnt get rid of them...
They would boast that they had taken in more money in the last year than all the Christian Churches...
and that that ws suppose to prove they were the “twoo” so called “church”
their mormon jesus was into extortion...
freepmail!:)
from mormon.org (Notice the priorities)
The law of tithing is the means by which the Lord's work is funded.
Today, all faithful members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints contribute one tenth of their income as tithing to contribute to the growth of the kingdom of God, including:
Constructing temples, chapels, and other buildings.
Providing operating funds for the Church.
Funding the missionary program.
Preparing materials used in Church classes and organizations.
Performing temple work, family history, and many other important Church functions.
Education.
I am not seeing anything on this list for taking care of the widows and orphans.
Performing temple work, family history, and many other important Church functions
I am not seeing anything on this list for taking care of the widows and orphans.
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No theres no mention of care for the widows and orphans...
after all if ya dont tithe, ya dont get salvation...
and if ya dont tithe ya must be an apostate...
I havent seen any Bible scripture about so called “temple work AKA dead dunking or family histories being the work of the Church...
Jesus said that the Church was to...
Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Mark 16:15
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen. Matthew 28:19, 20
Nope nothing about do some genealogy...
In fact Jesus said
“Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God.” Luke 9:60
By that standard the Mafia is the true church...
have you sinned today? According to your bom your "savior" cannot save you in your sins.
Those are just a sampling of the testimonies (aren't you big into testimonies?) of those women of that era. Those are quote from your prophets DOCUMENTED in mormon writings. The only thing ridiculous is your wilful turning of the eye away from true mormon history.
The pioneer women of my Church were persecuted every bit as severely as the men of my Church. And to this day we have to put up with it, which we do, as it is proof that our Church is true. Persecution comes with the territory. Keep it up if you must.
Thought you were just saying were did not have feelings of superiority. YOUR problem is that the persecution of the pioneer women were by mormon men - NOT outsiders Saundra - go back an read who was making those statements. It wasn't us gentiles forcing women into polygamy, but it was us gentiles who pushed to end that practice.
Someone on this thread said LDS women were being mistreated TODAY which is so ridiculous I cannot even begin to respond.
Furthermore, LDS women have never been mistreated by “Mormon men.” We are held in the highest esteem as daughters of our Heavenly Father.
www.Mormon.org
You then need to pay more attention to my statements then, and not superimpose what some one else has said. With that said SD, your only hope to be with heavenly father is for your husband (or some other male) calling you there through the veil.
Furthermore, LDS women have never been mistreated by “Mormon men.” We are held in the highest esteem as daughters of our Heavenly Father.
You should be careful with absolutes. How smith propositioned Orson pratt's wife and verbally abused her and threatened to ruin her reputation (History of the Saints)(attested to by multiple other sources). Apostle Heber C. Kimball considered his wives as 'cattle' or a commodity (real love there, how would you like to be considered as bossie?). Caroline Owens( in Matilda Joslyn Gage, Women, Church and State, 1998, pp. 238-240) writes how she was duped into polygamy, then raped by her 'husband'. Add this to the fact that polygamy by itself was abusive by its very nature.
Now, that is just your history SD. Today, mormon women have higher rates of depression than other women (A Statistical Profile of Mormons: Health, Wealth, and Social Life 2004). The LDS church ITSELF acknowledges that mormon men abuse lds women (http://lds.about.com/od/mentalhealth/LDS_Mental_Health.htm)
“your only hope to be with heavenly father is for your husband (or some other male) calling you there through the veil.”
That is not what my Church teaches.
Come on SD, that is a part of the temple ceremony, in addition to the new 'name' you are given, that name is only spoken to the husband who is required to escort her through the veil ( in practice for the afterlife). Furthermore you cannot be saved unless married to a mormon holding the priesthood.
Milton R. Hunter, LDS Conference Report, April 1949, p.71: taught - "The Prophet Joseph Smith explained that this continuation of "the seeds" forever and ever, meant the power of procreation; in other words, the power to beget spirit children on the same principle as we were born to our Heavenly Parents, God the Eternal Father and our Eternal Mother. Therefore, a man cannot receive the highest exaltation without a woman, his wife, nor can a woman be exalted without her husband. That is the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the plan of salvation."
"The women then took the oath of obedience to their husbands, having to look up to them as their gods. It is not possible for a woman to go to Christ, except through her husband." Hand-Book on Mormonism, 1882
So please, spare us all the denial that this is what your church teaches.
Thanks for clarifying. But it seems it is still dependent upon the man and the woman is incapable of achieving it even after all she can do on her own.
Yes, it is still dependent upon having a man take you to the Celestial Kingdom (which Mormons call “exalted” and some Mormons agree means saved.)
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