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Martin Luther monument vandalized in Subotica
B92 ^ | 14 September 2009

Posted on 09/15/2009 9:17:13 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

SUBOTICA -- Vandals have knocked down a statue of Martin Luther located in central Subotica.

The monument was erected less than two years ago.

Vice President of the Evangelistic Church Municipality Rudolf Vajs said that he believed that more than one person was responsible, because the monument weighed 300 kilograms.

“The police have been informed and have investigated the scene. An investigation is ongoing and we hope that it will be successful and the culprits will be caught,” Vajs said.

He said that Subotica had sent a negative message to the world with this act, adding that it was important for the culprits to be caught and punished.

The monument was erected on Reformation Day, on October 31, 2007.


TOPICS: History; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: balkans; crime; luther; subotica
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Vandals have knocked down a statue of Martin Luther located in central Subotica.

Subotica is in Serbia.

1 posted on 09/15/2009 9:17:14 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Racists! Oh, wait.


2 posted on 09/15/2009 9:22:03 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Alex Murphy; Petronski

I’ll vouch for Petronski. He was playing cards at my place.


3 posted on 09/15/2009 9:24:53 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: Alex Murphy
I thought Protestants didn't believe in idolatrous things like statues?

Surely some mistake.

4 posted on 09/15/2009 9:26:16 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Larry Lucido; Petronski
I’ll vouch for Petronski. He was playing cards at my place.

I presume you had to provide the full deck?

5 posted on 09/15/2009 9:31:00 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (...We never faced anything like this...we only fought humans.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Vice President of the Evangelistic Church Municipality Rudolf Vajs said that he believed that more than one person was responsible...

...........

Subotica is in Serbia.

Oh. From the header I thought it was located on Gliese 581 in the northern part of the Andromeda Galaxy. .. My bad.

6 posted on 09/15/2009 9:32:00 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Alex Murphy

Naw, has to be outside provocateurs. Why I remember to this day all those posts on the FR back in Clinton’s days where I was assured that all Serbs are paragons of moral virtue and Radovan Karadjic and Milosevic were stalwart defenders of human rights!


7 posted on 09/15/2009 9:34:32 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: marshmallow

I tend to doubt they were bowing down before the MLK statue and praying to it, or giving gifts to it. Also, the MLK statue was of an oridary man, not an attempt at making an image of God in the flesh.


8 posted on 09/15/2009 9:39:48 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Above My Pay Grade
Martin Luther =/= Martin Luther King, Jr.
9 posted on 09/15/2009 9:47:23 AM PDT by Lee N. Field (It doesn't take much to be a false prophet these days beyond a WebTV and a blogspot account.)
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To: marshmallow

Nobody’s offering religious veneration of any sort to an image of Martin Luther.


10 posted on 09/15/2009 9:48:35 AM PDT by Lee N. Field (It doesn't take much to be a false prophet these days beyond a WebTV and a blogspot account.)
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To: Lee N. Field

Oops! Misread the title. I was wondering why the Serbs would have a statue of him anyway.

A statue of a religious leader, like Luther, might have slightly more potential for idolatry, but I seriously doubt the anything resembling worship of the statue was going on.


11 posted on 09/15/2009 9:50:57 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Above My Pay Grade

MLK?


12 posted on 09/15/2009 9:52:04 AM PDT by montyspython ("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
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To: Seruzawa

Probably not up to speed on Balkan affairs are you?


13 posted on 09/15/2009 9:53:32 AM PDT by montyspython ("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
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To: marshmallow

Careful there, if you start derailing serious religious threads with shallow attempts at sarcastic humor, it may lead to more “altar boy” jokes than you care to think about.
Just sayin...


14 posted on 09/15/2009 10:05:10 AM PDT by orlop9
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To: montyspython

I knew it wouldn’t take long. Thank you.


15 posted on 09/15/2009 10:44:31 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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Nobody’s offering religious veneration of any sort to an image of Martin Luther.

Ahhhhhhh...........*wink*..........got it!!

Statue of Martin Luther = good!!

Statue of St. Joseph or Jesus himself = bad!!

So what exactly is the statue for?

16 posted on 09/15/2009 11:24:06 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
I tend to doubt they were bowing down before the MLK statue and praying to it, or giving gifts to it. Also, the MLK statue was of an oridary man, not an attempt at making an image of God in the flesh.

Hmmmmmmmmm........OK, so it would be fine to build a statue of an "ordinary" man like St. Peter or St. Paul, for instance but not Jesus Christ, is that it?

Please advise.

17 posted on 09/15/2009 11:31:45 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow

>>>Hmmmmmmmmm........OK, so it would be fine to build a statue of an “ordinary” man like St. Peter or St. Paul, for instance but not Jesus Christ, is that it?

Please advise.<<<

Do you think Jesus Christ is nothing greater than an “ordinary” man?

A statue of an ordinary man is not making Almighty God into a statue. I don’t have a problem with a statue of Peter, Paul, etc., as long as people don’t pray to it (or “with it”), worship it, or offer sacrifices or gifts to it.

To make an image and pray to it, or say “this is what God looks like” is idolatry.

As long as nobody bows down, prays to or in anyway worships a statue of an ordinary person, it is not idolatry. When one makes an image of God it is idolatry.


18 posted on 09/15/2009 11:42:13 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Alex Murphy

What a precious personal attack.


19 posted on 09/15/2009 3:14:11 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Larry Lucido

Larry, you’re a mensch.

Thanks, by the way, for taking my marker. I’m good for it, I swear.


20 posted on 09/15/2009 3:14:59 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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