Oh, this should be fun
The facets of a diamond are individual and unique... and all the same diamond. God has likewise made himself known in individual and unique persons that are all part of one and the same essential being.
The essence of God is not diluted in his persons of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit anymore than the essence of a diamond is diluted by looking at an individual facet.
And God did not die to save us from God. He died to allow us to be with him. God does not punish us, we punish ourselves by deciding to not accept his grace and forgiveness.
Do you do this to be rude, expose your ignorance, or to denigrate others?
Just curious.
There is precious little in your post indicating that you are sincerely seeking understanding. There is much in your post indicating that you are picking a fight. What is the purpose of posting this?
"You're not supposed to understand it. It's a mystery."
Okay, I’ll make it simple . . .
People like having more than one god, so Catholics believe in three. It’s fun, there is a kind of freedom in it. But it is heretical to be a polytheist, so they call this belief in three gods “monotheism” which is a belief in one God. So basically, the Catholic belief in the Trinity is a way for polytheists to call themselves monotheists, and still be able to call everyone else heretical.
Other religions that have exactly the same Trinity, are indeed called heretical by the Catholics.
It’s sort of the grown up version of “up your nose with a rubber hose”.
To a liberal, the only sin is calling sin a sin.
If we knew the knowledge of God, that would make us an equal with God? Ain’t gonna happen ! However, we will all know God...he has promised in his word “all will be revealed”.
Jesus Christ is Lord God of heaven and earth who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. His soul is the Father, His Divine Human, the Son and his action or proceeding, the Holy Spirit. He is infinite in His glorification. Conjunction with finite beings such as ourselves takes place via the Holy Spirit.
Proof? We are created in His image and likeness -- if you look in the mirror, so you see three? The three person trinity was created from the mindset of Christ as he was crucified on the cross.
These Three Persons are truly distinct one from another, but they are not three distinct Gods.
Christ is not the second God. He is the Second Person of the Holy Trinity.
The Holy Spirit is not the third God. He is the Third Person of the Holy Trinity.
We mortals are used to there being one person per being: but the central being of Reality has three persons: three 'actors' if you will.
Sounds strange? It shouldn't do. One of the simplest, yet most provocative things we Christians say about God is that "God is Love".
Love is the unselfish giving of oneself to another: but how could God be Love unless God contained more than one 'self'?
So when we say "God is Love", we are at the same time affirming that "God is Trinity" - the love between God the Father and His Christ (the Second person of the Holy Trinity) is the Third person of the Trinity: the Holy Spirit.
God is not lonely. From all eternity, from before the creation of men and angels there has been a dance, a movement at the center of reality between the Persons of the Trinity. It is a dance of uncreated love that we cannot imagine, and yet we will be part of it for all eternity.
Sincerely hope this helps.
Well, if you have a difficult time with unquantifiable abstractions, I’m sure you wont understand Taoist teachings either. Just because your mind habitually wraps everything into object entities does not mean that you know that real nature of them.
I noted the following on your account’s webpage:
“Absolutely no flaming! These Devotional /Caucus threads are intended to be ponder in nature. If a particular day’s offering says nothing to you, please just go on and wait for the next day. Consider these threads a DMZ of sorts, a place where a perpetual truce is in effect and a place where all other arguments and disagreements from other times and places are left behind.
Thank you for your respect! “
So why the about-face or were you insincere and deliberately missleading when you posted this info about yourself?
I agree that there is no motive in today’s post other than to denigrate others rather than truly trying to understand the issue. We are exhorted by God to refrain from such trivial arguments that only seek to divide.
The Trinity is a standard Christian belief. 99%+ of Christian denominations hold the Trinity as a core belief. We’re talking everything from Catholics to Methodists to independent Baptists.
Christains that do not believe in the Trinity are the minority. A very, very small minority (1% max.)
If you come across any group calling itself christain that does not belive in the Trinity, LOUD alarm bells should start going off in your head. This group is not practicing anything near standard or accpeted Christianity.
Let me emphaized again. The Trinity is a standard Christian doctrine accepted by 99%+ of Christians and Christaian denominations througout the world.
I don't have a problem with that. All I am doing is adding infinities.
To know God is to love Him, and to love Him is to know Him.
So love love love Him. May be then you will know know know Him.
Too simple? Perhaps. But effective.
-Theo
I don’t understand it so it can’t be true.
“The call finished with Donna speaking a prayer which begun “God, thank you for being such an awesome God…””
Beyond a mormon’s understanding that God is Awesome.
That speaks volumes.
www.tinyurl.com/mind-of-the-maker
The greatest book on the Trinity ever written. At least, the only book on the Trinity ever written that has a belly laugh on every page. By Dorothy L. Sayers.
Have you grown so desperate to try and prove with facts that the "burning in your bosom" is more than heartburn that you would post the blogged shenanigans of a guy who writes this on his "about" page:
Andrew ‘Bef’ Milne is a 19 year old biology major at the University of Western Australia who firmly believes that writing in the third person makes his statements sound more credible and authoritative.
Bef is a vocal supporter of secularism and skepticism and is equally avid in his criticism of fundamentalism, pseudoscience and mysticism.
Bef is sometimes labelled a ‘religious bigot’, especially in relation to his activism against the Church of Scientology. Bef does hate Scientology, he also hates Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Norway. He does not hate Scientologists, Christians, Muslims or Jews. He does, however, hate Norwegians.
I mean really Resty, I have heard of scrapping the bottom of the barrel, but not under it...
I hope your desperation does not extend to hatred of Norwegians also, they are a fine people...
Heck; some folks can’t even UNDERSTAND what Joseph Smith claimed was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism!