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End-times Madness
Gary DeMar Show ^ | Oct 2, 2009 | Gary DeMar

Posted on 10/04/2009 2:34:24 PM PDT by topcat54

Is Jesus returning in 2012? Does the conversion of Jews point to the end times? Gary takes a look at the latest editions of Charisma magazine and gives an educated rebuttal to its end-times arguments.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanvision.org ...


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: eschatology; futurism
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1 posted on 10/04/2009 2:34:24 PM PDT by topcat54
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To: ItsOurTimeNow; HarleyD; suzyjaruki; nobdysfool; jkl1122; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Dr. Eckleburg; ...
Reformed Eschatology Ping List (REPL)
Biblically Optimistic and Gospel-Based

"For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled." (Luke 21:22)

2 posted on 10/04/2009 2:37:35 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: topcat54
Reminds me of the whole year 2000 anticipatory, hellish prophecies.Are we still here in 2009? You decide.
3 posted on 10/04/2009 2:38:53 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: topcat54

>>Is Jesus returning in 2012?

I sure hope not. The world isn’t ready. Too many Christians act like their church is a social club, rather than a base camp for spreading His word. We need to get our act together first or Jesus will be very disappointed.


4 posted on 10/04/2009 2:43:01 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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To: GOP Poet

What’s the difference between Obammy and GWBush with regard to the Patriot Act and the potential for governmental abuse?


5 posted on 10/04/2009 2:44:15 PM PDT by STD (Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Sabourjian is well known Jewish name in Iran.")
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To: STD
What’s the difference between Obammy and GWBush with regard to the Patriot Act and the potential for governmental abuse?

If you have to ask that question it would be an exercise in futility to explain it!

6 posted on 10/04/2009 2:54:01 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: Bryanw92

Remember, the Bible says that no one knows when the coming of Christ will be. He will come “like a thief in the night”. I don’t think 2012 is it because everyone says this is when it will be.


7 posted on 10/04/2009 3:51:29 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: topcat54

Now they’re getting their ‘newspaper prophecy’ from the Mayans?

Hal Lindsey is out of business?


8 posted on 10/04/2009 5:26:12 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Religion Moderator

What happened to the links I provided to this show? There are no links in the OP on FR.


9 posted on 10/04/2009 5:32:04 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: topcat54

You can do rebuttals until the cows come home but does that change the fact that rogue states like Iran and North Korea have nukes?

And there might be a connection between this fact and the end of the world.


10 posted on 10/04/2009 6:27:26 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: topcat54
What happened to the links I provided to this show? There are no links in the OP on FR.

Ping to watch for their restoration....

11 posted on 10/04/2009 6:51:58 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (...We never faced anything like this...we only fought humans.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
You can do rebuttals until the cows come home but does that change the fact that rogue states like Iran and North Korea have nukes?

And there might be a connection between this fact and the end of the world.

And yet there might not.

12 posted on 10/04/2009 6:53:44 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (...We never faced anything like this...we only fought humans.)
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To: Alex Murphy; All
Not sure what happened to the OP link, but here it is. End-times Madness
13 posted on 10/04/2009 6:58:50 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: Bryanw92

I can only agree.


14 posted on 10/04/2009 7:31:34 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: topcat54

I admit to watching several of the 2012 hysteria shows on History lately.

I don’t buy the end times stuff, but I have always had this morbid curiosity about it anyway.

It is interesting that so many sources point to 2012, but these are all extrabiblical and Satan appears as an angel of light. Scipture doesn’t indicate that at all.


15 posted on 10/04/2009 8:28:40 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: topcat54

Thanks for the small dose of partial preterist sanity.


16 posted on 10/04/2009 9:09:33 PM PDT by crghill (You can't put a condom on your soul. I'm an anti-antinomian.)
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To: rwfromkansas

It doesn’t have to be the end of the world. But it can be something very ugly such as world war. I too have watched the History channel spin on things but with the way things are going and Obama being the president, I believe it will only embolden our enemies like Iran and North Korea, Russia. Look how he is handling Afghanistan, he is told we need more troops to win but yet Obama is more worried about getting the damn Olympics for his cronies in Chicago.


17 posted on 10/04/2009 9:19:12 PM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: dandiegirl
He will come “like a thief in the night”.

1 Thessalonians 5

1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
— 1 Thess. 5:1-5 KJV (Public Domain)

Do please read the text you thought you were paraphrasing, and carefully note that Paul, in verse 4, EXPRESSLY EXCLUDES believers from being in the position of such ignorance that The Day of The LORD would come upon them like a thief.

If you are in Christ -- if you have the love of Truth -- that day will certainly not take you by surprise.

18 posted on 10/04/2009 10:48:41 PM PDT by HKMk23 (In the end, life contains only one tragedy: not to have been a saint.)
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To: crghill
For more good stuff on this topic, see Debunking “Last Days Fever” at Charisma.
19 posted on 10/05/2009 9:25:34 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: HKMk23

Thank you. I did not know what the remaining verses said. This is very interesting indeed.


20 posted on 10/05/2009 11:43:15 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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