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Witness the "all" of me
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Posted on 10/17/2009 4:39:18 PM PDT by Jedediah

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To: Quix

I have not had the opportunity due to time restraints to read more than a small sampling of this thread, but since you prompted me via freepmail to respond to this survey, I will try to give my best assessment.

#1) 90%...I believe that Quix is truthfully reporting the incidents as they have been reported to him. Speculations about the nature of these phenomena are another matter, and difficult to determine. What is clear to me is that there are relatively large numbers of incidents that seem to be outside the realm of natural, ordinary events.

#2) 50%...Quix’s primary thesis; that reports of unidentified or alien craft and beings are actually fallen angels/demons is one that I concur with in many cases. It is certainly plausible to me given the nature of satan as a liar and father of lies, deceiver, and hater of the truth to use deception to draw men into belief in anything other than Christ, and aliens are an attractive place for for that faith to rest among those for whom religion is considered to be unscientific.

#3) 20%...Quiz often tries to expose govt. disinformation, rather than spread it. If he repeats any lies from hell, it is only to expose them for what they really are. Crazy people can sometimes appear intelligent and coherent, and are able to fool many people into believing their accounts, and I suspect that some of these reports may fall into that category.

A question was raised earlier about how widespread this view was among those in the Church. Since most of Christendom has very little understanding of the spirit world, even though “God is a spirit”, there is little understanding of the ways that satan can use the spirit world to deceive mankind. Being a “pentecostal” Christian, as is Quix, I think I am more open to this kind of possibility than most mainstream churchgoers. Among my circle of friends, I would say that while this belief is not widespread, it is at least considered a possibility by many.


1,021 posted on 10/26/2009 7:26:55 PM PDT by Truth Addict ("Whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth..." - Patrick Henry)
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To: word_warrior_bob

Leave the thread.


1,023 posted on 10/26/2009 9:02:06 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Truth Addict

EXCELLENT POINTS.

THANKS TONS FOR YOUR PERCEPTIVENESS AND CANDOR.


1,025 posted on 10/26/2009 11:26:55 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Jedediah
I can pray for yo

Yo player, you the prophizzle!

don’t you hear the Spherds voice ?

I got the Music of the Spherds on my Ipod, yo.

1,026 posted on 10/28/2009 12:30:19 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

***I can pray for yo

“Yo player, you the prophizzle!”

don’t you hear the Spherds voice ?

“I got the Music of the Spherds on my Ipod, yo.”

I found out where the Spherds is. It is in India. I don’t know about voices, but you can purchase a travel package there:

Day 1 ARRIVE SRINAGAR. On arrival at Srinagar, transfer to DLX house boats. Lunch free to move. Dinner & overnigth at house boat.

Day 2 SRINAGAR - PAHALGAM (86 km. 3 hrs.) After breakfast leave for Pahalgam “The Valley of Spherds” (2440 meter above sea level) Pahalgam is famous for Indian film industry. Dinner & overnight at hotel.

Day 3 PAHALGAM - CHANDANWARI - SHESHANG. After early breakfast leave for Chandanwari by cars (2895 meters) 16 kms. from Pahalgam towards Sheshang (3377) meters above sea level) 12 kms. trake via Pishoo Ghati (13000 feets.) Overnight in tents.

Day 4 SHESHANG - PANJTARNI. After early breakfast start for Panjtarni (3657 meters) 14 kms. trek, situated at the foot of mount Bhairva Overnight in tents.

Day 5 PANJTARNI - AMARNATH CAVE - BALTAL. After early breakfast start for a steep ascent toward Amarnath. Holy Cave (3953 meters) 14 kms. Where you can do the DARSHAN OF LINGAM and back to Baltal - overnight in tents.

Day 6 BALTAL - SONAMARG - SRINAGAR. After early breakfast leave for Srinagar via Sonmarg (15 kms. from Baltal) which is one of the beautiful picnic spots of Kashmir Valley. On arrival in Srinagar transfer to house boats for meals & overnight.

Day 7 DEPART SRINAGAR. After breakfast leave for bus station / airport for onward journey.

Note : • Vaishnodevi ext. may be provided on extra cost (Helicopter service - Katra - Vaishnodevi - Katra) • Sr. Citizen Air / Rly. fare & apex fare (Discounted Air fare) may be provided if book in time if so available.

Not only can you hear the voices of the Spherds, you can eat vegetarian meals there at 2440 meters above sea level while looking at the Indian film industry. I’m not sure what this has to do witnessing the all of J-d, but I’m sure that eating curried grass with fermented yak’s milk at 2440 meters above sea level is very spiritual and may lead to street preaching.


1,027 posted on 10/28/2009 5:26:05 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Jedediah; humblegunner

Yo, J-d

We found the Spherds. Whaddya say we get up a package tour and listen to the voices there, eating curried grass and drinking fermented yak’s milk. It’d be real spiritual.


1,028 posted on 10/28/2009 6:09:22 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

you really do not believe any one can hear the voice of the lord clearly huh


1,029 posted on 10/28/2009 6:40:19 PM PDT by Jedediah
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To: Jedediah; MarkBsnr

“you really do not believe any one can hear the voice of the lord clearly huh”

Wrong. Catholics know that some hear His voice. We also know that many hear His enemy’s voice.

You told me you did NOT claim to be a prophet, you told others a different story. Why?


1,030 posted on 10/28/2009 6:52:11 PM PDT by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: Jedediah

***you really do not believe any one can hear the voice of the lord clearly huh***

I don’t believe that you are hearing the Voice of God based upon your postings. I believe that many people throughout history have heard the Voice of God. But many of them follow the rules of capitalization, grammar and logic. Some might not; however they are few and far between and have not been recent, if memory serves.

Do you claim that you hear the Voice of God? Or, do you further claim that you are the Voice of God? If these descriptions do not suffice, how would you describe yourself?


1,031 posted on 10/28/2009 7:02:56 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: narses

You are absolutely correct on both God’s and satan’s voice. Empty eyed street preachers with only their fleas to mourn them do not speak as if they are from God.


1,032 posted on 10/28/2009 7:05:54 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Jedediah

Your PM was gibberish. You told me in public you were NOT a prophet, you told others you are. Why the different claims?


1,033 posted on 10/28/2009 7:24:16 PM PDT by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: narses

You’re getting PMs too?

We oughta get down on our hands and knees and thank Almighty God that He has sent us PMs.


1,034 posted on 10/28/2009 7:27:50 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: narses; Religion Moderator; Jedediah

Fascinating. Was your PM a threat? My last one was.

I wonder what the policy of FR is to threats.


1,035 posted on 10/28/2009 7:34:55 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

No just gibberish.


1,036 posted on 10/28/2009 7:44:54 PM PDT by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: MarkBsnr

Threats are not allowed at all. Freepmail the details to me.


1,037 posted on 10/28/2009 8:02:13 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: MarkBsnr
Dear MarkBsnr,

I had another FR creep-prophet send me threats through FR e-mail. That was about five years ago. He “prophesied” that God was about to strike me down. Pretty much right then and there.

A quick forwarding of the garbage to the mods put a quick end to his private message “prophesying.”

Fraud.


sitetest

1,038 posted on 10/28/2009 8:22:39 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

Appreciate the post.

The RM has taken care of things in the efficient and thorough manner that we’ve come to expect on FR. I suspect that the threat factor has dropped to zero.

***I had another FR creep-prophet send me threats through FR e-mail. That was about five years ago. He “prophesied” that God was about to strike me down. Pretty much right then and there.***

You seem rather hale and hearty.

***A quick forwarding of the garbage to the mods put a quick end to his private message “prophesying.”***

I do not envy the RM in the administration of the religion forum with all the characters of Bedlam running loose and the refugees from the planet Haldol scurrying every which way. I expect nothing untoward from this moment on, though. The RM is more than capable.

***Fraud.***

Feel sorry for them, rather than anger, for they are less than men. They live between the planes and have no recourse to live on Earth.


1,039 posted on 10/28/2009 8:31:00 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Dear MarkBsnr,

“You seem rather hale and hearty.”

Thanks! Ain't doin’ too bad. In any case, it appears that I suffered no imminent doom. This one told me he had fifteen years' experience doing prophet work. I almost asked him for his résumé. I mean, heck, how often do you get a chance at an EXPERIENCED prophet?? LOL.

What was it they did with false prophets in the Old Testament??

“I do not envy the RM in the administration of the religion forum with all the characters of Bedlam running loose and the refugees from the planet Haldol scurrying every which way. I expect nothing untoward from this moment on, though. The RM is more than capable.”

Hey, Haldol’s good stuff! Makes ya drool.

“Feel sorry for them, rather than anger, for they are less than men. They live between the planes and have no recourse to live on Earth.”

You're more philosophical than me. I just try to avoid the nutjobs and the frauds.


sitetest

1,040 posted on 10/28/2009 8:45:27 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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