Posted on 10/30/2009 9:01:19 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
Nah, the lies told about the Holy Catholic Church are legion. I just posted the TRUTH about American Freemasonry, you are invited to review Albert Pike’s book and comment using FACTS instead of polemics.
I see you have been reading your Alinsky.
Alinsky was a Mason, no?
Get a life!!
Go peddle your Revolutionary Theology elsewhere.
Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.
Thanks, I do. That IS the point of following Our Lord, no?
You seem to think Pike was the Holy Roman Emperor of Freemasonry and he was not. I’ve got a whole bookshelf of Biblical commentaries by Matthew Henry. Some of it I agree with, some of it I don’t. Henry makes some interesting points but it isn’t inspired, it isn’t scripture - it’s commentary. Same goes with Pike
Whatever facts you think you’ve worked out there by reading Pike are entirely subjective.
Ancient craft freemasonry is largely unchanged since way before Pike ever dotted an i or crossed a t.
Hey, your brother Apron Wearers felt strongly enough to give this book out to EVERY new candidate for over 100 years. Why do you not acknowledge that fact?
Why should I? It’s immaterial.
It’s a commentary - nothing more. Morals and Dogma is not an officially sanctioned text for freemasonry. I did not receive the book but I understand it was usually given out after the so-called 14th degree of Scottish Rite, which I’m not a member of.
That’s an appendent body - it is not blue lodge masonry. Morals and Dogma is simply extra-curricular.
I wouldn't dare work another KofC BBQ w/o one!!! ;o)
Katlics UnTie ! The Templars are back!
Why is a belief in a supreme being required?
How is a fact a mockery? Are not aprons and honored party of robing a Mason?
It’s immaterial.Not according to over 100 years of Masonic history in the United States. Why do you have trouble acknowledging what Masonry teaches? Here is an excerpt, does it fit with what you would want brother Mason's to believe?
From Chapter One:
Masonry has its decalogue, which is a law to its Initiates. These are its Ten Commandments: I. God is the Eternal, Omnipotent, Immutable WISDOM and Supreme INTELLIGENCE and Exhaustless Love. Thou shalt adore, revere, and love Him ! Thou shalt honour Him by practising the virtues! II. Thy religion shall be, to do good because it is a pleasure to thee, and not merely because it is a duty. That thou mayest become the friend of the wise man, thou shalt obey his precepts ! Thy soul is immortal ! Thou shalt do nothing to degrade it ! III. Thou shalt unceasingly war against vice! Thou shalt not do unto others that which thou wouldst not wish them to do unto thee ! Thou shalt be submissive to thy fortunes, and keep burning the light of wisdom ! IV. Thou shalt honour thy parents ! Thou shalt pay respect and homage to the aged! Thou shalt instruct the young! Thou shalt protect and defend infancy and innocence ! V. Thou shalt cherish thy wife and thy children! Thou shalt love thy country, and obey its laws! VI. Thy friend shall be to thee a second self ! Misfortune shall not estrange thee from him ! Thou shalt do for his memory whatever thou wouldst do for him, if he were living! VII. Thou shalt avoid and flee from insincere friendships ! Thou shalt in everything refrain from excess. Thou shalt fear to be the cause of a stain on thy memory! VIII. Thou shalt allow no passions to become thy master ! Thou shalt make the passions of others profitable lessons to thyself! Thou shalt be indulgent to error ! IX. Thou shalt hear much: Thou shalt speak little: Thou shalt act well ! Thou shalt forget injuries! Thou shalt render good for evil ! Thou shalt not misuse either thy strength or thy superiority ! X. Thou shalt study to know men; that thereby thou mayest learn to know thyself ! Thou shalt ever seek after virtue ! Thou shalt be just! Thou shalt avoid idleness !
Which of these require you to believe in a supreme being?
What is the "Celestial Lodge Above"?
I reject your assertion that this was handed out to every freemason for over 100 years. Total hogwash.
You’re clearly not understanding the structure of freemasonry or the various Grand Lodges.
Just because this book is handed out in the Scottish Rite in some areas of the country does not mean anything to masonry as a whole. And any real student of history knows the axiom, never say never and never say always.
Scottish Rite is an appendent body of masonry - meaning extra-curricular. What they do in that group, I don’t know. They aren’t bigger or better masons because of it. Their additional degrees don’t make them higher among masons.
How about if I start quoting some of the Gnostic Gospels? Are you prepared as a good Catholic to support whatever assertions were made in the Gospel of Thomas or the Gospel of Truth just because the authors may have asserted they were inspired?
I reject Pike’s commentaries as anything more than just commentary - as do all the freemasons that I personally know.
What in what I have posted as excerpts do you deny as representative of the Masonic belief system?
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