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In aftermath of Maine, gays step up their attacks on the Church
American Papist ^ | November 5, 2009 | Thomas Peters

Posted on 11/05/2009 10:08:05 AM PST by NYer

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To: 1776 Reborn

As if gays didn’t have the support of tax-empty foundations. But that’s a red herring. Gays did not hesitate to use the courts and their connections in the Democratic Party to deprive the people of Massachusetts the right to vote on this issue.


21 posted on 11/05/2009 10:28:14 AM PST by RobbyS (he)
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To: NYer
Get the State out of the marriage business and this problem vanishes.

As usual, Government is the problem.

22 posted on 11/05/2009 10:29:36 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: max americana

With all due respect, you should seek another parish.
Peace be to you...


23 posted on 11/05/2009 10:32:48 AM PST by OriginalChristian (If you can't get LIFE right, nothing else you think or say matters...)
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To: OriginalChristian

It’s the only Catholic parish in Hollywood unfortunately.


24 posted on 11/05/2009 10:34:13 AM PST by max americana (i)
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To: massmike; wagglebee
Thank you for posting those links. It is so very important to show others what happens when the definition of marriage changes. I still recall reading a news article written a few days after MA legalized gay marriage. The author's son was a 1st grade student on that fateful day. No sooner was the announcement made when a team of gays descended on each and every classroom to begin the indoctrination process. The next day, the author pulled his children from that school and enrolled them in a Catholic school. What is most disconcerting, though, is that this trend is not local or even national. It's is worldwide. And despite what they say, it is not a matter of civil rights. They have as much right to marry a person of the opposite gender as do you and I.

Heads up! The gov of NY is planning to introduce a bill to the legislature next week, legalizing gay marriage in this state.

25 posted on 11/05/2009 10:34:40 AM PST by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
The GLBT fifth column thinks it can shame or harass the margin of loss into voting their way.
26 posted on 11/05/2009 10:37:49 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: RobbyS

Yeah, I think they should be granted legal business partnership contracts by the government,not marriage licenses, to deal with the legal issues surrounding property ownership and custody disputes. I think the churches should be the only ones to actually marry anyone according to their own religious beliefs. That’s my view, I know it is a bit too middle of the road for many regarding this issue but I think it would resolve this issue from the
governments point of view in my lifetime at least.


27 posted on 11/05/2009 10:39:12 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: max americana

You’re five minutes from Burbank. Go to St. Finbar of St. Charles Borromeo in Toluca Lake.


28 posted on 11/05/2009 10:41:42 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

typo, “or” St. Charles Borromeo


29 posted on 11/05/2009 10:42:21 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Is it a lib parish? I’m wary of any church close to Hollywood.


30 posted on 11/05/2009 10:43:47 AM PST by max americana (i)
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To: NYer

-The gov of NY is planning to introduce a bill to the legislature next week, legalizing gay marriage in this state.-

Like Patterson’s approval rating wasn’t low enough already....


31 posted on 11/05/2009 10:48:21 AM PST by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: max americana

St. Finbar was not at all liberal, at least back in the 90’s. Can’t vouch for what it’s like now, but they were very focused on the Eucharist when I lived in the area.

You should pay them a visit this Sunday and see. I take it you go to Holy Name(?) in Hollywood?


32 posted on 11/05/2009 10:56:19 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: NYer
In aftermath of Maine, gays step up their attacks on the Church

Does this mean the opposition of gays toward the Catholic Church's tenet now stands at 110%?

33 posted on 11/05/2009 10:57:28 AM PST by stevem
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To: Rutles4Ever

Thanks for the info. I dont want to mention the name of it but it’s “close” to CNN (maybe that’s why it’s liberal).


34 posted on 11/05/2009 11:02:32 AM PST by max americana (i)
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To: max americana
I had to walk out while the lemming idiots were clapping afterwards.

The lemming idiots should have their hands taped to their sides. Actually, your pastor should tell people they should NOT applaud in church. There is no reason for it, no permission for it, and it's always used to get simple-minded idiots (mostly women, I hate to say) to lend their "solidarity" to some liberal cause.

35 posted on 11/05/2009 12:08:13 PM PST by livius
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To: NYer

The standard argument is

“How can two people of the same sex being married be a threat to your marriage?”


36 posted on 11/05/2009 12:10:18 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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The militants won't stop until all churches are like this one: http://www.mccchurch.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Sexuality_Spirituality&Template=/CM/HTMLDisplay.cfm&ContentID=629
37 posted on 11/05/2009 12:18:05 PM PST by thecraw (God allows evil...God allowed Hussein...Lord willing he'll give us Sarah to clean up the huge mess.)
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To: MrB
The standard argument is “How can two people of the same sex being married be a threat to your marriage?”

Same as saying, "If I get an abortion, how that that be a threat to someone else's right to carry their baby to term?"

38 posted on 11/05/2009 12:21:51 PM PST by thecraw (God allows evil...God allowed Hussein...Lord willing he'll give us Sarah to clean up the huge mess.)
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To: NYer

The anger displayed by gays seeking affirmation and approval of their relationships as normal and natural used to surprise me. I have wondered why?

It is of interest to me that the rise of the demand for “gay marriage” correlates to the rise of lesbianism, female homosexuality. It is natural for women to want children and to have a partner in the care of raising those children.

Yet, due to the nature of the homosexual union, reproduction is impossible. Artificial means must then be used. Likewise, marriage, as it has been defined and understood for centuries, is between a man and a woman.
Therefore, “gay marriage” must also be achieved by artificial means. As is evident, the voting public is not ready to grant gays that sanction, so they have turned to the courts to impose it. It would therefore follow, that acceptance must also then be artificially imposed.

I submit that the anger stems not from the fact that society has not gleefully adopted the homosexual agenda, but rather a kind of self aversion in the subliminal knowledge that the natural things they desire cannot be attained by their unnatural sexual desires.

It is projection and transferal of blame. Like a spoiled child angry when its parents won’t consent to what is bad for the child and the family.

I believe that even should gays gain the “marriage” they seek, they will still find themselves angry and bitter. Remember it was once enough to be able to practice the “alternative lifestyle” free of discrimination. No matter the concessions, they will never be happy as it will never be enough to quell the knowledge that their sexual desires are disordered under the laws of nature and not just the laws of God.


39 posted on 11/05/2009 12:22:56 PM PST by Jvette
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To: NYer

Come on Palin.


40 posted on 11/05/2009 12:29:58 PM PST by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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