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Mormon Stumpers [my subtitle "We don’t bash your church, why bash ours?"]
Catholic Answers ^ | 2004

Posted on 11/08/2009 7:04:08 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: Gamecock

“We don’t bash your church, why bash ours?”

Which is why Mormons have been, for the most part, left alone. They are not a violent group and do not attack others.


21 posted on 11/08/2009 7:43:13 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: colorcountry
"The Roman Catholic Church doesn’t recognize Mormonism as Christian. Why do you?"

......and astronomers don't recognize planet kolob.(lol). Joe's Myth is anti-Christian; the mormon cult isn't Christianity in the slightest; their Jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible.

All the truth on mormonism is here. All of it.

22 posted on 11/08/2009 7:43:29 AM PST by NoRedTape
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To: vladimir998

***Rome is now San Diego?***

The fourth ROME?

Rome
Constantinople
Moscow
San Diego?;-)


23 posted on 11/08/2009 7:43:41 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The sword does not kill. It is a tool in the killer's hand.---Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: TheDon

Don,

Almost 99.9% of those on exmormon.org had such a contemptible view of God taught to them as Mormons that they became totally atheist when they left. Those posting on that site are posting views as exmormon/atheists.

The plan of Satan seems to be working.


24 posted on 11/08/2009 7:45:38 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: Gamecock
Mormons who cannot answer a sincere question about their franchise are weak in their faith, so they will tell you their sect is more perfect than all others.

My favorite is when you ask a question to gain understanding of the Mormon position is when they ask a “Tie Down” question.

Such as when I asked recently about their responsibility to pray for the dead and convert an empty vessel into Christ's Salvation.

Their Response?: “Don't you believe everyone should have the opportunity to live in God's grace?”

My response, to a stupid question: “Uhm, yeah. I believe and wish for all to live in God's Grace, through Jesus Christ. However, God gives you an opportunity to make that decision, of one's own volition. When you are dead, your time to come to Christ, as a personal decision, of a sentient human being, is over, passed and gone.”

“Aren't you really praying over a coffee can?”

I have yet to hear anything cogent other than a stupid question about the Catholics doing the same, which of course they don't.

Catholics pray for the dead and ask for God's mercy, but conversion? That is just plain stupid.

No one is going to be called across the great divide or from purgatory because of your invocation or plea.

25 posted on 11/08/2009 7:46:41 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Gamecock

I’m a Catholic who doesn’t have a problem with the Mormons. They were great in the Prop 8 fight. Plus I see their missionaries in places where there is much welfare dependency and alcoholism. If they can get a few of those slobs sober and off the dole - more power to them.


26 posted on 11/08/2009 7:48:40 AM PST by Lou Budvis (The difference between a welfare state and a totalitarian one is time. - Ayn Rand)
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To: colorcountry
I grew up Catholic, and enjoyed many parts of it. Kind of fell away from it at 18 and moved towards praying on my own daily. However, I have many fond memories of the church, especially being an altar boy. My particular church had a couple really good priests as well.

As for the Mormon stuff, it just seems every time that religion comes up on this site, it gets really rude and insulting towards them. I don't doubt what's in their hearts, and I find the mudslinging at them to not be very Christian.
27 posted on 11/08/2009 7:48:48 AM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

THE QUESTION OF THE VALIDITY OF BAPTISM CONFERRED IN THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
Fr Luis Ladaria, S.J.

http://www.ewtn.com/library/theology/mormbap1.htm


28 posted on 11/08/2009 7:49:26 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: Lou Budvis

Mormons are great people. They’ve been instrumental is the fight against gay marriage, but they are NOT Christian.


29 posted on 11/08/2009 7:50:56 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: Gamecock
The other thing that bugs me about Mormons is their belief that they are more perfected than other Christians and they are the one “True Religion”. Hence the name Latter Day Saints.

To that I always ask “So explain God's word and your variance with the following: For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God”.

“Where do you fit in that equation and are you a better human being or superior Christian to all others, who God has given equanimity, without qualification, other than you, I and all others are sinners?”.

Never got an answer to that one either.

30 posted on 11/08/2009 7:52:09 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Phantom4
"On the other hand, Mormons and Romanists still share the most serious flaw in their view of God: that men may put their own Creator under an OBLIGATION to show mercy."

I can't seem to find that in my catechism, Brother...

31 posted on 11/08/2009 7:53:51 AM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: mysterio

I prefer not to discuss religion at all. I do not wish diminsh another’s beliefs nor do I wish others to question my beliefs as long as I don’t interfere with their rights. I make it an ironclad rule to walk away from religious discussions, unless the issue is how religious beliefs manifest themselves in unacceptable ways, i.e. some Muslim beliefs result in terrorist activities and should be condemned by one and all.


32 posted on 11/08/2009 7:59:28 AM PST by monocle
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To: greyfoxx39

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33 posted on 11/08/2009 8:09:44 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: GonzoII
It's not, and I say that as a Methodist/Greek Orthodox.

The Catholic/Orthodox/Main line Protestant churches agree on far more tha the disagree, hence why we can work well together in ecumenical organizations and such. There few obvious exceptions among individual memebers who seem to favor conflict. But the True Chritian faiths work well together, most recognizing each others Baptisms, marriages and such.

For example I was raised Methodist, converted to Orthodoxy in my early adulthood and the Church accepted my Baptism in the Methodist faith. You can get too much further apart than Methodist and Orthodoxy in the scheme of things, but we are on the same basic page.

34 posted on 11/08/2009 8:17:21 AM PST by ejonesie22
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To: greyfoxx39

Worthy is the the Lamb
Are You worthy Lord Almighty?
YES and Amen
Beautiful One my soul shall sing!!!!


35 posted on 11/08/2009 8:22:23 AM PST by svcw (The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves. GW)
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To: colorcountry
They are good people at heart, but their religion is screwy to say the least:

However, this scenario does not square with the testimony of those who were eyewitnesses to Joseph Smith dictating the Book of Mormon. These witnesses include all three of the Three Witnesses of the Book of Mormon (the same individuals whose testimony appears in the front of every copy of the Book of Mormon), as well as Joseph Smith’s wife, Emma Hale Smith. They tell a similar story of Joseph dropping a magical seer stone into his hat, then burying his face in the hat and proceeding to dictate the Book of Mormon. Joseph claimed to see in the darkened hat the words he dictated.



Thanks, but no thanks.


36 posted on 11/08/2009 8:24:06 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Hope....Change...Food Stamps!)
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To: ejonesie22
"hence why we can work well together in ecumenical organizations and such."

Can't argue there, what we agree on we should keep solidified for sure, then we have a good basis for the ecumenical projects.

Funny how a thread about Mormonism can actually bring out what we (Catholics, Orthodox, Baptists etc..) all have in agreement and such, i.e. Trinity, baptism and so on.

37 posted on 11/08/2009 8:27:48 AM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: ejonesie22
"Trinity"

Just about agree, "Filioque" I mean.

38 posted on 11/08/2009 8:37:43 AM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: NoRedTape

And the Catholic Church is not a cult? Please explain why.

The Catholic Church claims it is the only true church and its priests and sacraments are the only valid ordinances,..and..they emotionally threaten and control those who chose to leave it with visions of burning in hell.

If this isn’t a cult then what is?

Honestly...I don’t think Catholics, who are living in glass houses, should throw stones at Mormons.


39 posted on 11/08/2009 8:44:17 AM PST by wintertime
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To: svcw

Amen!


40 posted on 11/08/2009 8:56:25 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (The House health care bill that is dropping contains the word “shall” 3,425 times...)
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