Posted on 11/08/2009 7:04:08 AM PST by Gamecock
“We dont bash your church, why bash ours?”
Which is why Mormons have been, for the most part, left alone. They are not a violent group and do not attack others.
......and astronomers don't recognize planet kolob.(lol). Joe's Myth is anti-Christian; the mormon cult isn't Christianity in the slightest; their Jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible.
***Rome is now San Diego?***
The fourth ROME?
Rome
Constantinople
Moscow
San Diego?;-)
Don,
Almost 99.9% of those on exmormon.org had such a contemptible view of God taught to them as Mormons that they became totally atheist when they left. Those posting on that site are posting views as exmormon/atheists.
The plan of Satan seems to be working.
My favorite is when you ask a question to gain understanding of the Mormon position is when they ask a “Tie Down” question.
Such as when I asked recently about their responsibility to pray for the dead and convert an empty vessel into Christ's Salvation.
Their Response?: “Don't you believe everyone should have the opportunity to live in God's grace?”
My response, to a stupid question: “Uhm, yeah. I believe and wish for all to live in God's Grace, through Jesus Christ. However, God gives you an opportunity to make that decision, of one's own volition. When you are dead, your time to come to Christ, as a personal decision, of a sentient human being, is over, passed and gone.”
“Aren't you really praying over a coffee can?”
I have yet to hear anything cogent other than a stupid question about the Catholics doing the same, which of course they don't.
Catholics pray for the dead and ask for God's mercy, but conversion? That is just plain stupid.
No one is going to be called across the great divide or from purgatory because of your invocation or plea.
I’m a Catholic who doesn’t have a problem with the Mormons. They were great in the Prop 8 fight. Plus I see their missionaries in places where there is much welfare dependency and alcoholism. If they can get a few of those slobs sober and off the dole - more power to them.
THE QUESTION OF THE VALIDITY OF BAPTISM CONFERRED IN THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
Fr Luis Ladaria, S.J.
http://www.ewtn.com/library/theology/mormbap1.htm
Mormons are great people. They’ve been instrumental is the fight against gay marriage, but they are NOT Christian.
To that I always ask “So explain God's word and your variance with the following: For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God”.
“Where do you fit in that equation and are you a better human being or superior Christian to all others, who God has given equanimity, without qualification, other than you, I and all others are sinners?”.
Never got an answer to that one either.
I can't seem to find that in my catechism, Brother...
I prefer not to discuss religion at all. I do not wish diminsh another’s beliefs nor do I wish others to question my beliefs as long as I don’t interfere with their rights. I make it an ironclad rule to walk away from religious discussions, unless the issue is how religious beliefs manifest themselves in unacceptable ways, i.e. some Muslim beliefs result in terrorist activities and should be condemned by one and all.
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The Catholic/Orthodox/Main line Protestant churches agree on far more tha the disagree, hence why we can work well together in ecumenical organizations and such. There few obvious exceptions among individual memebers who seem to favor conflict. But the True Chritian faiths work well together, most recognizing each others Baptisms, marriages and such.
For example I was raised Methodist, converted to Orthodoxy in my early adulthood and the Church accepted my Baptism in the Methodist faith. You can get too much further apart than Methodist and Orthodoxy in the scheme of things, but we are on the same basic page.
Worthy is the the Lamb
Are You worthy Lord Almighty?
YES and Amen
Beautiful One my soul shall sing!!!!
However, this scenario does not square with the testimony of those who were eyewitnesses to Joseph Smith dictating the Book of Mormon. These witnesses include all three of the Three Witnesses of the Book of Mormon (the same individuals whose testimony appears in the front of every copy of the Book of Mormon), as well as Joseph Smiths wife, Emma Hale Smith. They tell a similar story of Joseph dropping a magical seer stone into his hat, then burying his face in the hat and proceeding to dictate the Book of Mormon. Joseph claimed to see in the darkened hat the words he dictated.
Thanks, but no thanks.
Can't argue there, what we agree on we should keep solidified for sure, then we have a good basis for the ecumenical projects.
Funny how a thread about Mormonism can actually bring out what we (Catholics, Orthodox, Baptists etc..) all have in agreement and such, i.e. Trinity, baptism and so on.
Just about agree, "Filioque" I mean.
And the Catholic Church is not a cult? Please explain why.
The Catholic Church claims it is the only true church and its priests and sacraments are the only valid ordinances,..and..they emotionally threaten and control those who chose to leave it with visions of burning in hell.
If this isn’t a cult then what is?
Honestly...I don’t think Catholics, who are living in glass houses, should throw stones at Mormons.
Amen!
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