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1 posted on 11/08/2009 7:04:08 AM PST by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

Every once in a while Rome puts out something that is actually OK.


2 posted on 11/08/2009 7:05:25 AM PST by Gamecock (A tulip, the most beautiful flower in God's garden.)
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To: Gamecock
I grew up Catholic. Haven't had much of a problem with Mormon missionaries. They're nice enough folks. I just tell them I'm already Christian. Generally, they are good kids and aren't pushy or anything.

I find the fights between sects of Christianity to be pretty pointless, honestly. The "my sect of Christianity is the only true sect" seems an exercise in futility.
3 posted on 11/08/2009 7:09:14 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Gamecock

On the other hand, Mormons and Romanists still share the most serious flaw in their view of God: that men may put their own Creator under an OBLIGATION to show mercy.


4 posted on 11/08/2009 7:09:19 AM PST by Phantom4
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To: Gamecock

What year did the Catholic Church that protestants could be Christians?


11 posted on 11/08/2009 7:23:27 AM PST by ThomasThomas (I don't have time to Procrastinate)
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To: Gamecock

Some sort of Protestant posting a thread about what a Catholic website says concerning Mormons?

No thanks.

Freegards


12 posted on 11/08/2009 7:25:13 AM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Gamecock

“We don’t bash your church, why bash ours?”

Which is why Mormons have been, for the most part, left alone. They are not a violent group and do not attack others.


21 posted on 11/08/2009 7:43:13 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Gamecock
Mormons who cannot answer a sincere question about their franchise are weak in their faith, so they will tell you their sect is more perfect than all others.

My favorite is when you ask a question to gain understanding of the Mormon position is when they ask a “Tie Down” question.

Such as when I asked recently about their responsibility to pray for the dead and convert an empty vessel into Christ's Salvation.

Their Response?: “Don't you believe everyone should have the opportunity to live in God's grace?”

My response, to a stupid question: “Uhm, yeah. I believe and wish for all to live in God's Grace, through Jesus Christ. However, God gives you an opportunity to make that decision, of one's own volition. When you are dead, your time to come to Christ, as a personal decision, of a sentient human being, is over, passed and gone.”

“Aren't you really praying over a coffee can?”

I have yet to hear anything cogent other than a stupid question about the Catholics doing the same, which of course they don't.

Catholics pray for the dead and ask for God's mercy, but conversion? That is just plain stupid.

No one is going to be called across the great divide or from purgatory because of your invocation or plea.

25 posted on 11/08/2009 7:46:41 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Gamecock

I’m a Catholic who doesn’t have a problem with the Mormons. They were great in the Prop 8 fight. Plus I see their missionaries in places where there is much welfare dependency and alcoholism. If they can get a few of those slobs sober and off the dole - more power to them.


26 posted on 11/08/2009 7:48:40 AM PST by Lou Budvis (The difference between a welfare state and a totalitarian one is time. - Ayn Rand)
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To: Gamecock
The other thing that bugs me about Mormons is their belief that they are more perfected than other Christians and they are the one “True Religion”. Hence the name Latter Day Saints.

To that I always ask “So explain God's word and your variance with the following: For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God”.

“Where do you fit in that equation and are you a better human being or superior Christian to all others, who God has given equanimity, without qualification, other than you, I and all others are sinners?”.

Never got an answer to that one either.

30 posted on 11/08/2009 7:52:09 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Gamecock

When one believes sincerely, that he has to give a password and a secret handshake to get by Joseph Smith to get into heaven, he does not hold Christian beliefs.


60 posted on 11/08/2009 11:23:45 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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2. The church also opposes [correctly, of course] pornography in any form (158)

Not any more. Ever since Bill Marriott & his fellow corporate leaders sanctioned profiteering off of in-room porn & Marriott porn booths (otherwise known as hotel rooms), what has the Lds church done? (Why've they've raised Bill Marriott higher within the church leadership hierarchy)

61 posted on 11/08/2009 11:27:33 AM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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From the article: It appears that this "unalterable" position, constantly "affirmed," is just another in a series of doctrinal and moral teachings that Mormons have reworded, reworked, rescinded, or reneged—though never officially renounced. Such is the quality of the Mormon belief in "continuing revelation." Don’t expect dogmatic or ethical consistency. Rather, look for expediency and conformity with "the times."

Yup. Just like Lds leaders "reworded, reworked, rescinded, reneged" one-woman marriage...and restrictions vs. blacks as priesthood holders. Indeed, as the writer said: Such is the quality of the Mormon belief in 'continuing revelation.' -- just another phrase for relativistic 'revelation'...Indeed, "Don't expect dogmatic or ethical consistency. Rather, look for expediency and conformity with 'the times.'"

62 posted on 11/08/2009 11:31:28 AM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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From the article: ...the persons responsible must first consult with their church leader and receive God’s approval in prayer (156).

So God tells Mormons, "OK, go ahead & slice & dice...dismember the baby at will????" (And this is what they as revel in as "personal revelation???")

65 posted on 11/08/2009 12:06:59 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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"We don’t bash your church, why bash ours?"

Sure they do!!

The following hasw NEVER been rescinded and is STILL in force!


 
 

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

81 posted on 11/08/2009 4:30:40 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock
"We don’t bash your church, why bash ours?"

Sorry that MORMONs get their panties in a wad just because a LOT of their leader's writings get posted all the time.

82 posted on 11/08/2009 4:31:33 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock

And these are only the tip of the iceberg. The more you study Mormonism, the more contradictions arise.

My favorite stumpers are:

“Does the Book of Mormon teach the fullness of the Gospel?” - A faithful LDS will say “yes” yet the BoM does not teach doctrines they consider ESSENTIAL for salvation such as: temple rites and garments, certain priesthood offices such as Seventy and High Priest, eternal progression (godhood), baptism for the dead or degrees of Glory.

another one is an answer to the LDS arguement that they are Christians b/c the name Jesus Christ is in the name of their church. But that wasn’t always so. There were 3 previous names for the (now) LDS church, including just the “Church of Latter Day Saints”. Couldn’t Jesus decide on a name for His church?!? Especially since they teach that their Church is the EXACT same as the one in the NT.

Finally, the LDS only pray to “Heavenly Father” and not Jesus, yet in their own Book of Mormon there are examples of the Nephites praying TO JESUS and NOT God (Alma 36).

I thank God every day that He saved me and saved me out of that so-called “church”.


351 posted on 11/09/2009 8:33:31 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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Somehow, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints have been persuaded by their leaders that they have always been on the receiving end of uncharitable comments and unjust accusations.

I guess the TBMs have never read the founding staements of Joseph Smith!

 
 
 
  The LDS Organization® prints Hundreds of Thousands of THIS yearly; how could they POSSIBLY have ever MISSED it??

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”
 
 
The LDS headquarters; in the heart of a modern  US city, visited by THOUSANDS daily, has this placed in prominent view:
 
 
...which reiterates the charge that "they are all wrong; they teach for doctrines the commandments of men".

547 posted on 11/11/2009 9:15:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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