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Theres a great thread about the Fatima incident here:
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There has also been some interesting research into the three principal percipients of the 'apparitions' down the years:
In 1982 the two researchers publish a 460 pages book untitled
"Intervenção Extraterrestre em Fátima - as aparições e o fenómeno OVNI"
which was reedited in 1995 in a revised version by Editorial Estampa, Lisboa, under the title "Tha Fatima Apparitions and the UFO Phenomenon".
This great work - the most detailed thesis ever published by Portuguese scholars - on the contrary of most the foreign books about this event is based on first-hand sources, original interrogations and statements made by the three principal percipients of the "apparitions", namely Lucia, Francisco and Jacinta and also a selected group of on hundred first-hand witnesses of the events.
A few important and forgot issues of the 1917 events were uncovered by Joaquim Fernandes and Fina d'Armada, such as:
1) - a "fourth percipient" namely Carolina Carreira, whom describes a "telephatic type of contact with a fair-headed being of small stature who instilled into her head a repetitive order described as follows: "Come here and say three Ave Marias, come and say three Ave Marias...".
2) - a surprised description given by Lucia, the eldest of the three percipients, when at the "Parochial Enquiry" she spoke of a "very shining lady, about 1 meter and 10 cms in height, seming to be between 12 and 15 years old, wearing a narrow skirt, a jacket and a cloak, all with golden cords, running through them. She came from "above" and vanished-gradually in the inverse direction, made no facial movements, nor did she articulate her lower lips, and moved only her hands from time to time. She had a luminous BALL in hand and she turned her back towards the percipients when she departed"
3) - the authors managed to determine the distance parameters of the so-called "solar phenomenon" of October 13, 1917, from the witnesses positions on the ground. J. Fernandes and F. d' Armada found that they were all within a band of 70 meters wide and running through the Cova da Iria area, center of that spectacular aerial phenomenon, called by the vast multitude of people waiting as the "miracle of the sun".
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Other:
Interview:
In this interview, Jerry discusses (through interpreter Alexandra Bruce) the 1917 events in Fatima, Portugal with Dr. Joaquim Fernandes and Fina D’Armada who together have written a trilogy of books about the Fatima incident, its evolution as a factor in Catholic doctrine, and its parallels to UFO incidents reported throughout history.
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Eyewitness reports of the Fatima sightings:
"Before the astonished eyes of the crowd, whose aspect was biblical as they stood bare-headed, eagerly searching the sky, the sun trembled, made sudden incredible movements outside all cosmic laws — the sun 'danced' according to the typical expression of the people."
Avelino de Almeida
"The sun, at one moment surrounded with scarlet flame, at another aureoled in yellow and deep purple, seemed to be in an exceeding fast and whirling movement, at times appearing to be loosened from the sky and to be approaching the earth, strongly radiating heat."
Dr. Domingos Pinto Coelho
"…The silver sun, enveloped in the same gauzy grey light, was seen to whirl and turn in the circle of broken clouds… The light turned a beautiful blue, as if it had come through the stained-glass windows of a cathedral, and spread itself over the people who knelt with outstretched hands… people wept and prayed with uncovered heads, in the presence of a miracle they had awaited. The seconds seemed like hours, so vivid were they."
Reporter for the Lisbon newspaper O Dia.
"The sun's disc did not remain immobile. This was not the sparkling of a heavenly body, for it spun round on itself in a mad whirl, when suddenly a clamor was heard from all the people. The sun, whirling, seemed to loosen itself from the firmament and advance threateningly upon the earth as if to crush us with its huge fiery weight. The sensation during those moments was terrible."
Dr. Almeida Garrett, Professor of Natural Sciences at Coimbra University.
"As if like a bolt from the blue, the clouds were wrenched apart, and the sun at its zenith appeared in all its splendor. It began to revolve vertiginously on its axis, like the most magnificent firewheel that could be imagined, taking on all the colors of the rainbow and sending forth multi-colored flashes of light, producing the most astounding effect. This sublime and incomparable spectacle, which was repeated three distinct times, lasted for about ten minutes. The immense multitude, overcome by the evidence of such a tremendous prodigy, threw themselves on their knees."
Dr. Formigão,priest and professor at the seminary at Santarem
"I feel incapable of describing what I saw. I looked fixedly at the sun, which seemed pale and did not hurt my eyes. Looking like a ball of snow, revolving on itself, it suddenly seemed to come down in a zig-zag, menacing the earth. Terrified, I ran and hid myself among the people, who were weeping and expecting the end of the world at any moment."
Rev. Joaquim Lourenço
"On that day of October 13, 1917, without remembering the predictions of the children, I was enchanted by a remarkable spectacle in the sky of a kind I had never seen before. I saw it from this veranda…”
Portuguese poet Afonso Lopes Vieira.
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posted on 26/1/2008 @ 15:12
Fatima UFO coverup...undeniable proof that aliens are associated with religion
this is the greatest ufo sighting of the 20th century
this ufo was witnessed by at least 60-70 thousand people. there was a silver disk sighted and an entity claiming to be the mother of the universe and the mother of Jesus.
to me this is undeniable proof that religion and ufo"s are related in some way.
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Vallee Says Fatima Event Was UFO
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Fatima Apparition
i believe there was a huge cover up within the Vatican and the Goverments involved to downplay the incident
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Fatima and the Devil's Final Battle
it really seems as if this information has been surpressed because i cannot find many pictures of the incident. i once found a picture of a drawing that one of the girls made to describe what this entity looked like and the picture i saw did not resemble any pictures you would think of the Mother of Jesus(Mary). this drawing (wished i had saved it now ) looked like a alien entity to me. i am hoping someone knows what i am talking about and can find a picture of what she drew.
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What happened in Italy in October 1954 has nothing to do with airplanes and meteors.
Newspapers at the time wrote that into the sky was as if a hypothetical staff of flying discs had decided to make its big maneuvers in Florence and Tuscany.
It was the year of great wave autumn that practically all interested peninsula and the recurrent theme cover of the Domenica del Corriere and Titles of the newspaper La Nazione. According to chronicles are recorded repeated sightings of unidentified objects that seemed "to couples from different forms: as a wing white seagulls in flight, a drop of water, a hat Chinese; fast a few seconds of each other."
The witness is the most famous of journalist Batini author of a comprehensive article on The Nation, but the newspaper reported for a day following reports and related assumptions about the nature of the phenomenon.
MESSAGGERO + GAZZETTA PADANA + GAZZETTA del SUD + IL GAZZETTINO + altri 20/10/1954; UFO IN ITALIA II, 134
Two men, namely Gennaro Lucetti and Pietro Lastrucci stood on the balcony of a hotel located in St. Mark’s Square of Venice, on October 27, 1954. The men suddenly saw two “shining spindles” flying across the sky. The objects left a fiery white trail as they zipped along. Both objects flew at high speed, one of them at some distance away from the other. Then the objects took a U-turn and flew away in the direction of Florence.
At Municipal Stadium was playing soccer between Fiorentina and Pistoiese. Among the players Fiorentina note Costagliola, Magnini, Cervato, Chiappella, Rosetta, Segato, Mariani, Gren, Virgili, Gratton, Bizzarri, Sarti, Capucci, Del Scratch, Scaramucci, Biagi, Orzan, Luna, Tassinari, Ghersetich, Buzzin, Vidal . For the Pistoiese Vadi, Pierallini, Vettori, Caiumi, Tuci, Lomi, Balsimelli, Lenci Carpini, Vannucchi, Fossi.
Above the stage there was two mysterious flying objects. The match was interrupted; fans of the two teams, astonished, lifted his eyes to the sky to watch the evolution of the objects; Ferruccio Valcareggi also observed the scene along with players of the two teams.
Romulus Tuci, at the time of Pistoiese captain, said: "It was a beautiful day. At some point we noticed that the spectators looked in the air. Was spontaneous stop for us players. As I saw small rings away, what were not know really. short, we were among those who saw them and who does not, and there was also those who did not pay any attention, believing in who knows what. How long remained suspended the game, sincerely do not remember, passed fifty 'years, how do I say ten minutes, or more? But we watch all in the air. Fifty years ago, you think? ".
The whole town had halted with the nose up to observe the evolution of the objects.
It was certainly not of collective hallucination; ten thousand people at the stadium, phone calls from all over the city and suburbs, Sesto, Peretola. All to describe objects in the sky and a strange snow of spiders' webs.
Mr Jacopozzi and other people in his company looked objects with binoculars and gathered the mysterious cotton-like. The comments would be revealed that the objects were shaped drop of water, others shaped hat Mandarin Chinese; proceeded at speeds high and were produced in complicated evolution.
At 14.30 on 27 October 1954 in the writing of the newspaper came the call for an engineering student, Alfredo Jacopozzi that held view, along with others, several discs flying in the sky of Florence. At one stretch between the object and the dome of the cathedral there was another "white balloon," faster than an airplane, then another "disc" and another still. Six objects left their strange passage of the "flakes" white like “cotton-like”.
Then came the most glaring whose memory is still fresh in the minds of many witnesses who see the phenomenon.
The substance was quick to disintegrate if held in the hand. Alfrede Jacopozzi, a student, was the only one who managed to pick up a few threads of it and sealed them in a hermetic test tube. Jacopozzi then handed the tube to Professor Giovanni Canneri, a director of the Chemical Analysis Institute under the University of Florence. Professor Danilo Cozzi, a colleague of Prof. Canneri’s, carried out a series of tests of the mysteries find. “It’s a fibrous material, which is highly resistant to tension and torsion. Once subjected to heat action, the material grows dark and evaporates, leaving transparent sediment that melts away. The sediment was found to contain boron, silicon, and magnesium. Hypothetically speaking, the substance may be some kind of boron-silicon glass,” said Prof. Cozzi.
The response of the chemical, even if preceded by a "purely hypothetical line", was: glass borosilicico.
Thus was born the term "cotton-like siliceous" to the famous "rain", also documented by a "cinemagazine" Week Incom showing people intente to collect fragments, in the form of small or tangled skeins, appearance and consistency seems pretty rigid. (I'll show you soon this video)
At 13.30 phenomena similar to cotton-like siliceous rain, recorded in Sesto Fiorentino and Prato. At 14.30 was the turn of Lucca and after an hour of Chiusi, in Siena. And that same year, similar incidents occurred almost everywhere in Italy starting from 19 October until early December. In Senigallia, in the province of Ancona, the attention of a large number of people was drawn to several items "like small lentils" quickly fly to the sky great height. Some filaments, like "lint gray or whitish", went down for more than half an hour on the town. The phenomenon is repeated even in Jesi, always in the same place, after the passage of dozens of strange objects. Then he touched in Rome, in various places in Tuscany, in Gela (Sicily), in Mantua, the neighborhoods of Mortara, in the province of Ferrara. Not always, in the fall of coincidence filaments, was the presence of unidentified flying objects.
Nearly fifty years the case remains open. Some elements would suggest the hypothesis that it is cob webs: the period of the year and the weather conditions suggest the release of the material by certain species of spiders. But the result of chemical albeit vague ( "glass"), let think to something more unusual.
To complicate the matter that three years later, around noon, 27 October 1957, the phenomenon, although with less intensity, appeared again on the Tuscan capital. Among the numerous witnesses that of a group of people that was in Piazzale Michelangelo saw two bodies and bright form oblunga "quickly cross the sky. A few moments later, all found themselves on a sort of clothes lint whitish which was disintegrating very quickly.
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By Marc Kaufman
Sunday, November 8, 2009
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"this week the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Sciences is holding its first major conference on astrobiology, the new science that seeks to find life elsewhere in the cosmos and to understand how it began on Earth. Convened on private Vatican grounds in the elegant Casina Pio IV, formerly the pope's villa, the unlikely gathering of prominent scientists and religious leaders shows that some of the most tradition-bound faiths are seriously contemplating the possibility that life exists in myriad forms beyond this planet. Astrobiology has arrived, and religious and social institutions -- even the Vatican -- are taking note."
"Father Jose Funes, a Jesuit astronomer, director of the centuries-old Vatican Observatory and a driving force behind the conference, suggested in an interview last year that the possibility of "brother extraterrestrials" poses no problem for Catholic theology. "As a multiplicity of creatures exists on Earth, so there could be other beings, also intelligent, created by God," Funes explained. "This does not conflict with our faith because we cannot put limits on the creative freedom of God."
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RARE Never seen UFO sighting at Vatican on inaug. of the new pope in 05.Vatican belive alien NOW
Why now Vatican officially declared its ok to believe in aliens?
Thats the most important question after officially declaration of Vatican about existence of alien .Every one asking same question at every ufology or conspiracy blogs & news channels. I think at UFOBLOGGER we find the missing link in this chain of events.
Their was a time when they house arrest Galileo for his finding.Vatican have explanation that he prove them wrong by providing proofs of his theory.
So know who provides them the proof to believe in Aliens this time?
Here in this post i am putting two UFO sightings video & 2nd sighting is rare one never seen or reported in media
External Video Link
They second video is really shocking for me we here in American never saw that before what you guy think about it?
More sespicious about all this is we dnt find many videos about these two sighting on internet even all videos are cleared up take a look at it .
Following on from my recent post on the reasons for the Vatican's recent admission about aliens I have searched the net high and low to locate the original video of the ufo (pictured above) that appeared over the Vatican in 05 when the pope died. Although this was aired on live tv back in 2005 it has now disappeared from youtube & google video and the best i can now find is the above photo of the event. Infact, all videos of the event have been completely removed from the internet with links to it from youtube, google & live video coming back as deleted or missing. You have to wonder what is going on here - is this video simply too sensitive for us to see? If you guys know where i can get the video please reply to this post.
So who goona debunk this Vatican ufo sighting .
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