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1 posted on 11/21/2009 9:42:15 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Martin Luther at the Diet of Worms:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5P7QkHCfaI


2 posted on 11/21/2009 9:43:58 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Martin Luther at the Diet of Worms:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5P7QkHCfaI


3 posted on 11/21/2009 9:44:07 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
Martin Luther was RIGHT!

About anything in particular?

4 posted on 11/21/2009 9:46:08 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: WesternCulture; lightman

I am a friend of Lutheranism. My children attend a Lutheran school. I am a Roman Catholic.

Unfortunately, in this part of the US, the Lutheran Church is guided by the ELCA and it seems to be particularly liberal. Not in my geographic location, but a little closer to urban centers. The leadership seems to be more politically-based than it is on the teachings of Christ.

The ELCA sanctions homosexual unions, which is contrary to the teachings of the Bible, and seems to be passive and silent with regard to pro-life issues. Though I do have many pro-life Lutheran friends in this rural geographic region that I live in.

Therefore, ELCA lacks any moral authority, which I believe is the foundation society, strong families, just laws and stable and robust economies.

I believe this sect of the Lutheran Church will marginalize itself out of existance. I hope the other branches of Lutheranism stay healthy and faithful. Actually, they will stay healthy, but only if they remain faithful.


7 posted on 11/21/2009 10:06:08 AM PST by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight")
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To: WesternCulture

One
Holy
Catholic
Apostolic
Church

“And the gates of hell shall not prevail against it!”


11 posted on 11/21/2009 10:15:50 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Many countries that are predominantly Protestant (including Scandanavia and many English speaking countries) have received a great deal of political freedom and material prosperity. But freedom and prosperity are not indicators that a person or a country is right with God.

When it comes to freedom, some would say that the problem with these countries is that they have too much freedom. In the name of individual choice the citizens of United States, for example (by and large considered a ‘Protestant’ country) have taken the lives of 30 million unborn children—five times the number of Jews that Hitler killed. The situations in other ‘Protestant’ countries are no better when it comes to abortion.

There is freedom to produce, purchase, and view unprecedented amounts of pornographic, violent, and ungodly entertainment. There is freedom that makes possible the confusion of gender roles that our society is experiencing, not only through the homosexual movement, but through the much broader feminist movement.

While freedom has been collapsing into libertinism in some areas, it has been severely curtailed in others. Teachers can hardly mention God in the public schools into which most families are forced to put their children due to the government subsidies these schools receive. Freedom is also curtailed by high tax burdens in “English-speaking, Protestant countries.” (Yes, most countries have high taxes, even “non-English-speaking, non-Protestant countries,” but “English-speaking, Protestant countries” usually are expensive welfare states with abnormally high tax rates.) High taxes make it difficult for families to make ends meet, and this means middle-class mothers of young children find themselves forced to work outside the home. It used to be enough in affluent countries that the father alone was employed.

Countries that commonly are considered Catholic (and no such country nowadays is really that, but there are a few, such as Ireland, that maintain a Catholic ethos to a degree), while usually having low GNPs, tend to avoid some of the social problems found in the richer, “English-speaking, Protestant countries.” They tend, for example, to have lower rates of abortion, divorce, and pornography.


13 posted on 11/21/2009 10:20:28 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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“On the other hand, Sweden of today is indeed a country a guy like ML would’ve appreciated.”

Are you kidding me? Sweden Lutheranism ordains homosexual bishop and other leaders. ML would’ve embraced that. Right.


15 posted on 11/21/2009 10:23:59 AM PST by Sodbuster09
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Lutheran Ping!
19 posted on 11/21/2009 10:45:12 AM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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“Compare the performance of the most Lutheran nations on Earth (Iceland, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark) to that of the least ones.”

You mean like Japan, Singapore and Korea?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


28 posted on 11/21/2009 12:06:46 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: WesternCulture; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...

Yeah, right.


30 posted on 11/21/2009 12:34:25 PM PST by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: WesternCulture
Martin Luther was RIGHT!

Which Synod?

31 posted on 11/21/2009 12:34:42 PM PST by johniegrad
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I thought Norway was rich because of it’s oil.


44 posted on 11/21/2009 4:50:36 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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