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Here's a simple direct question (and I honestly have not been following this tit-for-tat): Was a Roman Catholic poster(s) requested by the Religion Moderator to stop posting articles about sexual abuse by Protestant ministers in the Religion Forum?

You'd have to ask the moderator who issued the particular injunction at the time, as to what the reasons were for it. What I can tell you is that in the summer of '08, the FReeper in question posted over 50 threads about "sexual abuse by Protestant ministers" over a course of 20 days. 35 were posted in the Religion Forum, and 15 were posted in the News Forum. The poster received multiple warnings from at least one moderator, ignored those warnings, and received a suspension for a period of time. Threads in the Religion Forum about sexual abuse by any "person of the cloth" were being posted (by others) within two days of the incident, and the poster in question was posting new threads about sexual abuse to the News Forum within 30 days.

Now let me offer up these numbers for comparison. In the last 30 days, a Catholic FReeper has posted 14 threads about "sexual abuse by Protestant ministers", nine of which were made to the Religion Forum. And I have posted 8 threads about "sexual abuse by Catholic priests" in that same timeframe, four of which concern the current scandal in Ireland, and all of which are in the Religion Forum.

If so, would it not also be appropriate for Protestant posters to stop posting articles about sexual abuse by RC priests in the Religion Forum?

As another poster said earlier on this thread, clean your own house first, or as our Lord phrased it, "Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?"

Maybe, as markomalley pointed out, you could post these articles in "General" or "News" or "Bloggers/Personal" instead of the Religion Forum.

So only post bad news about churches in the other forums, only good news about churches here? What was that you were saying about the "grave sin of detraction"?

For the record, I haven't been warned, logged off, had a thread deleted or locked, or had any other mechanism of warning given to me.

Also for the record, if Alex posts items of an institutional nature (i.e., something indicating an institutional issue going on), I, for one, don't really mind it. I think the Irish Church issues are appropriate topics to be discussed (I would hope that he wouldn't be so selective in his extracts, as I've pointed out on other threads). It would also be convenient if Alex would do a little more research before posting articles. For example, the document original is here and an unofficial English translation is here. (The document has been out in the open for years).

I have, though, expressed my concerns about his posting articles about 30 year old incidents with lawsuits being brought by ambulance chasers. But those articles are not the same as the ones he is posting about the Irish Church.

We may not like it but unfortunately, that stuff happened in the US (revealed and newsworthy about 5-10 years ago). And the stuff has come to light over in Ireland just recently. And, has been shown in this country, I'm confident that the truth will show over in Ireland, as well, that the tolerance of liberal, heterodox ideas allowed this camel to get its nose under the tent. Denying that is not going to change the facts. And I am also confident that the Irish Church will weather the storm just as the American Church did.

Alex has his reasons for posting this material. One of the rules of the Religion Forum is that we are not allowed to mind read. Therefore, I am not going to do so and assert what Alex's agenda is. If Alex chooses to do so, that's his privilege one way or the other.

Alex has, however, implied an agenda on my part (which I don't appreciate). He has accurately identified that I have posted stories on perverted Protestant ministers. What he has done though, by omission, is implied that this is the ONLY category of pervert I have posted about. I have also posted on Catholic ministers (IIRC, I was the one who initially posted the Father Cutié story a while ago, as an example), abusing psychologists, and most recently, abusing pediatricians. He has also grouped many threads I have started on a host of different topics under this umbrella of perverted pastors.

So Alex won't be confused any more, I will let you all know my agenda. The thesis I am supporting is that our society, in general, is utterly perverse and is going to hell.

In general instances of this trend, I will post those instances in the "general / chat" forum. For example, what possible religious significance would there be to posting about Christopher Evans, the youth minister recently indicted in Colorado for 10 counts of sexual battery and 10 counts of unlawful sexual contact with a minor, or Shane Garrett Horning, a youth minister from San Jose, California, who recently pleaded guilty to four felony counts of oral copulation with a minor, or Jeff and Alice Kilburn, of South Lebanon, Ohio, who were recently indicted for both having sex with a 16 year old boy who was participating in Jeff's youth ministry? Those don't teach us anything about any particular denomination's practices; they simply tell us that there are a bunch of perverts out there who are in youth ministry. Maybe it goes to show that all churches should have some more in-depth investigations of their people and keep their eyes on them, but that's about it. However, the audience in the "general / chat" forum is different than that in the "religion" forum. They recognize it for what it is...that they need to keep their eyes on their kids and be VERY careful about who they trust, even those who work in ministry. (Note: I think I posted one thread of this variety to the "religion" forum in error)

However, you will also note that I do occasionally post stories about Protestant ministers in the Religion forum. Why? Because the ones I post about, such as Ted Haggard or Tony Alamo, are far higher profile than the ones that are posted in "general / chat." And, since they are so widely known, we in the "religion" forum can discuss the material they preach and if it has some relationship to their abuse. (For example, I learned a lot about Tony Alamo that I never knew, as a result of posting the tales about him).

But what about the other ones? If you note, those other ones (the lesbian elected bishop in LA, the Evangelical Alliance in Ireland supporting gay "marriage," the Episcopals / Anglicans codifying their liturgies for same-sex unions, etc.) are all institutional issues where standards are being thrown to the four winds in the name of political correctness. And those institutional issues certainly belong in the "religion" forum. It should also be noted that I have also posted critical articles about my own religion, as well (though I wouldn't expect Alex to acknowledge that fact).

Having said the above, I intend to continue posting the volume of material I've been posting on the subject and will continue posting material WHERE I have posted. If the management has an issue with me taking up bandwidth like that, I'm sure they will say something.

The poster received multiple warnings from at least one moderator, >>>

How would you know if you weren't a moderator yourself??? Anyway, if that one moderator is you, then you are a liar and fraud, and if not, that moderator who told you this information is a liar and fraud..and that goes for any religion moderator who stated that I was "warned" multiple times.... I was not.

For the record I received one and only one freepmail from some insane religion moderator who stated that I must stop "the war" with a freeper named Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus. (it's been 2 years, I think this is the freeper the mods. mentioned I was at war with).

I almost fell on my rear when I read that ridiculous FReepmail from one of the religion moderators for the reason that I NEVER knew, until then, that a FReeper named Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus existed and that I was having a "war" with him... I still can't get over that freepmail from the religion moderator, LOL... Granted, in 10 yrs. on the FR, I may have replied to a post or two without even noting who it was from, but a stated "war", give me a break.

This was the first time I saw the true colors of the FRee Republic in regards to the Catholic Religion. For 6 years I was reading so many anti-Catholic threads, I couldn't take it any more. And for one little month I decided to post some Protestant (including born-again Christians, fundamentalists, assemblies of God, southern Baptist, etc. they are all protestants) minister abuse threads and some Protestant Freepers went ballistic.

It was the day that I was suspended for one week that I had another, my 2nd FReepmail, that the religion moderator stated he was "tired" of this crap and it had to stop....That's why I was rather surprised with the complaint & suspension by the moderator. I was only warned ONCE about a so-called war with a freeper I never knew about and next I knew it I was suspended for "crap".

So, I ask again, what crap? what tired you out so much? the anti-Catholic crap for 6 years or the one little month of the threads I posted. And why was this mod angry in the first place? Were protestant freepers complaining? I don't know.

If the mods wanted me to stop posting, they should have requested that. They did not. I never received a FReepmail that I must STOP posting Protestant minister abuse threads. They had a perceived notion that I was at war with a freeper I never knew and only ONCE told me to stop being at war with that particular freeper..

To this day, I still don't know what the heck they were talking about and don't know why I was prevented from posting Protestant minister abuse threads while Protestants can still post Catholic abuse threads.

Catholics need not apply. Catholics need not post minister abuse threads.