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The tight control theory in the Book of Mormon
The Mormon Times ^ | http://www.mormontimes.com/mormon_voices/michael_r_ash/?id=12498 | Michael R. Ash

Posted on 12/29/2009 12:30:09 PM PST by Colofornian

The "tight control" theory for the Book of Mormon translation suggests that Joseph dictated a fairly literal translation of the Nephite text into the scriptural language of his day. According to several witnesses, Joseph actually spelled out proper nouns the first time he dictated them to his scribe. One interesting example is the name "Coriantumr."

Dr. Royal Skousen, the foremost expert on the original Book of Mormon manuscript (the text written by scribes as dictated by Joseph), explains that when Joseph dictated "Coriatumr" to Oliver Cowdery, Oliver wrote "Coriantummer," crossed it out, and then wrote "Coriantumr." The first spelling makes sense based on what Oliver would have heard. There is no way Oliver could have known that the name ended with "umr" unless Joseph offered the correct spelling.

SNIP

Decades after the Book of Mormon was published there was a wide diversity of ways that members pronounced Book of Mormon proper names. Finally, in the early 1900s a church committee was organized to produce a "pronunciation guide." This committee formulated a set of rules -- based on common English standards rather than revelation -- for pronouncing proper names. The intent of the committee was not to dictate the absolute correct way to pronounce the proper names, but rather to establish some uniformity...

The original grammar of the 1830 Book of Mormon also provides some evidence for "tight control." Before we get to this evidence some explanation is in order. All LDS scholars recognize that changes were made to later editions of the Book of Mormon. For many critics, this is a sure sign that God was not the source for the book's translation. For Mormons, however, who do not believe in infallible prophets or inerrant scripture, this presents no problem whatsoever.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; History; Other Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: antimormonthread; bookofmormon; josephsmith; lds; mormon
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To: Colofornian

I saw the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibit in San Diego a couple of years ago and learned about the name “Alma son of Judah” which appeared on one of the scrolls - first time (outside the Book of Mormon) that the name “Alma” appears as a man’s name. Interesting.

Also at the same exhibit was a well preserved - excellently preserved - brass plate. Very interesting.


21 posted on 12/29/2009 4:14:13 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Colofornian
Dr. Royal Skousen, the foremost expert on the original Book of Mormon manuscript (the text written by scribes as dictated by Joseph), explains that when Joseph dictated "Coriatumr" to Oliver Cowdery, Oliver wrote "Coriantummer," crossed it out, and then wrote "Coriantumr." The first spelling makes sense based on what Oliver would have heard. There is no way Oliver could have known that the name ended with "umr" unless Joseph offered the correct spelling.

Skousen was to be the great answer to bom textural changes throughout the years, yet his 'studies' go more to show the spuriousness of the bom than most 'anties'. Clearly Smith was using the 'tight control' method - leaving virtually no room to justify the thousands of mistakes in the bom.

22 posted on 12/29/2009 4:52:16 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
There is no way Oliver could have known that the name ended with "umr" unless Joseph offered the correct spelling.

Ha ha ha ha ha. "the correct spelling" of something read aloud from an alleged translation of a non-English language. They are today where Islam was in about 850AD.
23 posted on 12/29/2009 4:55:40 PM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan
Ha ha ha ha ha. "the correct spelling" of something read aloud from an alleged translation of a non-English language. They are today where Islam was in about 850AD.

And yet they hold to the 'truth' of the bom only by the thinnest thread of a subjective feeling, thinking it is a steel cable.

24 posted on 12/29/2009 5:08:51 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Colofornian
According to BYU prof Robinson, Snow's couplet isn't canonized, either.

This is:


 
 

THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded July 12, 1843,
 
 Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 19–25
 
  
 
  19 And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.
  20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.
  21 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.
  22 For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.
  23 But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.
  24 This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.
  25 aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.
 

25 posted on 12/29/2009 8:41:23 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy; Colofornian; Godzilla; greyfoxx39; ejonesie22

I saw the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibit in San Diego a couple of years ago and learned about the name “Alma son of Judah” which appeared on one of the scrolls - first time (outside the Book of Mormon) that the name “Alma” appears as a man’s name. Interesting.

Also at the same exhibit was a well preserved - excellently preserved - brass plate. Very interesting.

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Interesting I will have to check my exhibit book on that.

And will call Risa Levitt Kohn (the curator of the exhibit), who is a good friend and wonderful scholar to see what she has to say about the LDS use of this.

I suspect she will not be happy to hear it is being used as a “proof” for the Book of Mormon. She has some pretty choice words about Smith.


26 posted on 12/30/2009 5:53:21 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - ""I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

LOL...

Ouch...


27 posted on 12/30/2009 5:58:30 PM PST by ejonesie22
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