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To: John Leland 1789
“Mariolatry, the Confessional, the Mass. Mariolatry is the death of the affections; the Confessional is the death of the conscience; the Mass the death of the understanding”

I am not a theologian - but I am Catholic - so I must reply:

Mariolatry is not practiced by Roman Catholics, but the recognition that She is the Daughter of the Father who kept her sinless from the moment of her creation. Mother of God Incarnate Word, and Spouse of the Holy Ghost, she is HONORED and REVERED, and recognized as Co-Redemptress, having consented to the Father's will and suffered at the foot of the Cross in the sacrifice of her son.
Confession is the practice of humility, and when absolution is granted, the assurance that through the saving grace of The Sacrifice Of The Cross, your sins have once again been forgiven.
The Mass is the recreation of the Sacrifice Of The Cross, where the Son, once again FREELY offers Himself as The Sacrificial Lamb to The Father for our salvation. Without the daily Sacrifice of the Mass, humanity could not be endured in the face of God's Justice given wickedness that it's sinful and will pride brings to the world 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

2 posted on 01/21/2010 12:53:36 AM PST by J Edgar
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To: J Edgar

“I am not a theologian - but I am Catholic - so I must reply:”

Well, that one one heavy piece of theology anyway. Thank you.


3 posted on 01/21/2010 12:59:52 AM PST by John Leland 1789 (But then, I'm accused of just being a troll, so . . . .)
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To: J Edgar

I’n not a theologian either, and I’m proud to be protestant, but I think his assertions that “Mariolatry is the death of the affections; the Confessional is the death of the conscience; the Mass the death of the understanding” are decidedly suspect.

For example - the confessional COULD be the death of conscience, IF people got to thinking it enabled them to do whatever they want on the assumption that going to confession would automatically absolve them - but of course that is not the whole object of confession. In and of itself confession and even absolvement is of no use if the heart remains unrepentant, as I’m sure any of the Catholics on this thread would affirm unreservedly.


19 posted on 01/21/2010 2:51:18 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: J Edgar; John Leland 1789; John Valentine; If You Want It Fixed - Fix It; markomalley; ...
And now some links that will give all of you the truth about the Mass. BTW, there have been several great posts by Catholics. They already know this, but I ask the rest of you to read a couple of the articles in these links. Thanks.

Pope wants crucifix at the centre of ALL westward-facing altars during Mass
Benedict XVI's "Novel" Traditions
Telling Time By the Catholic Church
Good Hymns, Bad Hymns

Order of the Mass (New Translation Catechesis Part I)(Catholic Caucus)
Open Ears, Open Heart (Preparing to Receive the Liturgy of the Word each Sunday)
(Cardinal) Newman on Rites and Ceremonies
Explains The Supreme Importance Of The Liturgy
Altar Card for the Modern Roman Liturgy

Slating the Chairs (USCCB prepares for its November plenary session)
Mass appeal: "It's like Jolt Cola for the Soul" [Catholic Caucus]
WHERE THE PRIEST SHOULD BEGIN MASS Know Him in the Breaking of Bread - A Guide to the Mass
The (Catholic) Mass (as explained by a youth for Evangelical friends) [Ecumenical]

What the Catholic Mass means to converts
Good News for the [Catholic] Liturgy
'An Ordinance Forever' - The Biblical Origins of the Mass [Ecumenical]
The Sacrifice of the Mass: Liturgical Vestments

What Do You See at (Catholic) Mass?

Purification of Sacred Vessels in U.S. (and more on the Purification of our Lord)
Tyranny of Words (Catholic liturgy - NO vs. TLM)
Mass should be enlightening and elevating, not a cookie cutter ritual
What You {Catholics} Need to Know: Mass (Sacred Liturgy) [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
"The Catholic Mass ... Revealed"

The Battle Over the Mass [Catholic Caucus]
Scriptural Basis of the Mass as Sacrifice (Where is that in the Bible?)
Giving to God in Mass [Liturgy of the Eucharist]
Liturgy, Learning and the Language of the Catholic Faith
Cardinal Arinze's Mass Etiquette 101

Prostration and Vestments on Good Friday And More on the Precious Blood
Catholic Liturgy - Funeral Masses for a Suicide And More on Confession for RCIA Candidates
The Most Holy Sacrifice of the Mass - A Primer for Clueless Catholics (Part 1)
The Orthodox Divine Liturgy, the Roman Catholic Mass and the Anglican Eucharist...
Catholic Liturgy - Dramatic Readings at Mass (And More on Processions, and Extra Hosts)

Catholic Liturgy - Mass Intentions
Catholic Liturgy - Pre-recorded Music at Mass And More on Communion Services
Vatican: Matters to be observed or to be avoided regarding the Most Holy Eucharist (April 23, 2004)
POPE ISSUES APOSTOLIC LETTER ON THE SACRED LITURGY
Liturgy: Are Glass Chalices OK for Mass?
EUCHARIST: HOLY MEAL

28 posted on 01/21/2010 9:01:23 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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