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Doctor Claims He Has Evidence of the Afterlife
MSNBC ^ | 1/20/10 | Michael Inbar

Posted on 01/21/2010 6:27:18 AM PST by marshmallow

In new book, he says that near-death accounts transcend cultures and ages

The near-death experience story is so common that it has become a bit of a cliché: A medical patient, hanging in a murky limbo between life and death, is drawn through a tunnel of bright light, meets their maker, and is told they must return to the land of living.

But that scenario played out letter-perfectly for Mary Jo Rapini. And her story is getting firm backing by a doctor who has studied some 1,300 near-death experiences. Medical doctor Jeffrey Long chronicles Rapini’s story, along with his own research, in a new book: “Evidence of the Afterlife: The Science of Near-Death Experiences.”

In the book, Long contends his study shows that accounts of near-death experiences play out remarkably similarly among the people who have had them, crossing age and cultural boundaries to such a degree that they can’t be chalked up simply to everyone having seen the same Hollywood movie.

Through a tunnel

Appearing with Dr. Long on TODAY Wednesday, Rapini related her near-death experience to Meredith Vieira. A clinical psychologist, Rapini had long worked with terminal cancer patients, and when they told her of their near-death experiences, she would often chalk their stories up as a reaction to their pain medication.

But in April 2003, she faced her own mortality. Rapini told Vieira she suffered an aneurysm while working out a gym and was rushed to the hospital. She was in an intensive care unit for three days when she took a turn for the worse.

“All of a sudden [doctors] were rushing around me and inserting things into me, and they called my husband,” she told Vieira.

“I looked up and I saw this light; it wasn’t a normal light, it was different. It was luminescent.

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"Some late breaking news....... this just coming in now on the TODAY show........we're hearing reports that there really is an afterlife..........Meredith........you have more details on this exclusive story............??"
1 posted on 01/21/2010 6:27:18 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
...yes yes, it's Chrissy Mathews, he has revealed he was a dog turd in a previous existence and that explains his tingling leg experience.
2 posted on 01/21/2010 6:31:27 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: marshmallow
it wasn't a normal light, it was different. It was luminescent

"Normal light" is what "luminescent" means, doofus.

This is what passes for journalism these days?

3 posted on 01/21/2010 6:32:30 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: marshmallow
“All of a sudden [doctors] were rushing around me and inserting things into me, and they called my husband,” she told Vieira. "

“I looked up and I saw this light; it wasn’t a normal light, it was different. It was luminescent. "

Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. (John 8:12)
4 posted on 01/21/2010 6:34:08 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: American Constitutionalist

BTTT


5 posted on 01/21/2010 6:35:34 AM PST by wordsofearnest (Job 19:25 As for me, I know my Redeemer lives.)
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To: steve-b

luminescent” means, being able to produce it’s own light source.


6 posted on 01/21/2010 6:35:51 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: marshmallow

You mean there are not 72 virgins waiting there? Some people are going to be pissed!


7 posted on 01/21/2010 6:40:32 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: marshmallow

I have always found this to be a fascinating subject. I personally don’t believe that we will ever know what eternity holds until we cross over to the other side. Many of us have our faith and our beliefs, and that will have to suffice while we walk the earth.


8 posted on 01/21/2010 6:43:53 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: marshmallow

I’m wondering if there are any reports of the opposite, falling into Dante’s Inferno?


9 posted on 01/21/2010 6:45:22 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: marshmallow
Very interesting topic, but it doesn't totally square with Scripture.
Obviously, unless these people have been "Born Again" they could not have been in the presence of God.
Not looking for a flame war, it is just the reality of a Biblical world-view.
10 posted on 01/21/2010 6:48:35 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: TexasCajun

Ask Keith O. of MSNBC. Many of his facial expressions indicate he is residing there now!


11 posted on 01/21/2010 6:51:20 AM PST by rick11
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To: TexasCajun
I’m wondering if there are any reports of the opposite, falling into Dante’s Inferno?

I believe there are.

The one which springs to mind immediately is this guy named Howard Storm.

There may well be others and perhaps someone will enlighten us.

12 posted on 01/21/2010 6:54:42 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Psalm 73

Funny how Lazarus and Jesus didn’t mention these circumstances. I wonder what the Bible says about death and Judgement Day. Is every day Judgement Day? It must be if we get to go right to Heaven.


13 posted on 01/21/2010 6:59:44 AM PST by Shimmer1
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To: steve-b

This was a quote ~ I, of course, would have described it entirely differently. Frankly, I don’t recall.


14 posted on 01/21/2010 7:06:53 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: TexasCajun
"I’m wondering if there are any reports of the opposite, falling into Dante’s Inferno?"

There are. I'm a recovering alcoholic and have spent a lot of time talking/listening to recovering addicts of much harder drugs. Many of them have described chillingly similar visions of hell and demonic beings. Certainly it's easy to write these off as hallucinogenic byproducts of their addictions, but the similarities between their accounts coupled with the sincerity and fear in their eyes when relating their accounts suggest to me that it's something more.

15 posted on 01/21/2010 7:08:26 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: marshmallow

You know I have had expericences with this. Not personally but with people close to me including children.

When my youngest son had cancer(he died 8 months later. He was two years old in 1992), I had the privilege of meeting other children who after becoming terminal, related to their parents of the visions they had. One family in particular, who were totally agnostic, were converted to christianity because of their dying 8 year old son, Brendan who had visions before he died of angels telling him he will be going to heaven soon. Now, his parents forbade anything relgious in their lives up to that point.

Even my two yearold son, a month before he died while we were at treatment at UCSF. He was not terminal, there were every indication that he was going to beat his leukemia. He died a month later from septic shock due to a blood infection.

Anyway, while were there in May of 1992, unbeknownst to me, he started to give away personal items to people at UCSF including some patients. He gave away his matchbox cars, a item of clothing and a couple of his favorite books. I was told later what he did. HE KNEW!!! at two years old!!!

I do feel some small comfort in that for sure. The Lord is GREAT!!! I thank him for that Gift!!!

More recently, my brother who almosts died this summer, had a NDE, although he is still trying to put into context what happend to him. He told me this: Liz, mom and dad have a message for you....HANG IN THERE EVERYTHING WILL BE OK! There are other things he still cannot talk about.

Anyway, my experience.


16 posted on 01/21/2010 7:09:30 AM PST by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: marshmallow; Dr. Eckleburg; reaganaut; HarleyD; Alex Murphy; Tennessee Nana; Quix; irishtenor; ...

While interesting, it really doesn’t impact my faith.

As a point of interest though, I will tell you that I have had many patients share such stories with me.

Two are stuck in my head.

One lady told me she had two experiences. At the time of the first she was a Christian and had an experience of total love, a bright light, told she has to go back. At the time of her second she was an adherent of a cult that hovers around the periphery of Christianity. This time she reported darkness and torment.

I also spoke with a gentleman who was an agnostic. He had a near death experience and told me that “Hell and retribution are real.” He was always a calm, composed guy, but when talking about this he became very aggitated, almost in a panic.


17 posted on 01/21/2010 7:11:55 AM PST by Gamecock (We always have reasons for doing what we do.)
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To: TexasCajun; Joe 6-pack

Ping to post 17.


18 posted on 01/21/2010 7:13:17 AM PST by Gamecock (We always have reasons for doing what we do.)
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To: waxer1

My condolences on your lost. Thank you for sharing this with us. Wisdom most times comes at great cost. Thank you again.


19 posted on 01/21/2010 7:15:39 AM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: marshmallow

The one which springs to mind immediately is this guy named Howard Storm.

And he came back, turned his life around and became a UCC Pastor?? He’s definitely going back to hell...as an apostate.


20 posted on 01/21/2010 7:19:41 AM PST by Chickensoup (We have the government we deserve. Is our government our traitor?)
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To: TexasCajun

If I’m not mistaken, when Bill Clinton had his heart attack several years ago, he described something that sounded like it may have been something like that. It wasn’t described as a “near death” experience, but that’s what it sounded like to me, only in reverse.


21 posted on 01/21/2010 7:22:43 AM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: TexasCajun

For some reason, there never seems to be any reports of people going to the bad place, and coming back to tell of it, like there are of people seeing the light and coming back...maybe there is no bad place?


22 posted on 01/21/2010 7:23:57 AM PST by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: stuartcr

...or no coming back, just the welcome matt.


23 posted on 01/21/2010 7:24:57 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Joe 6-pack

If that is their experience it should be enough to scare the hell outta them and set them on a new path.


24 posted on 01/21/2010 7:26:20 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

It typically is.


25 posted on 01/21/2010 7:28:20 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Shimmer1
"Is every day Judgement Day? It must be if we get to go right to Heaven."

Jesus said to the thief on the cross : "Today you will be with me in Paradise", so in that sense, sure - but there is no "time" as we know it in heaven (try wrapping your mind around the concept of "eternity").
If we are not "saved", though, we cannot enter the presence of God because we are still stained by sin - until and unless that sin is washed by the "blood of the Lamb", which is what happens when we ask Jesus to be our Lord and Savior (even for a wretch like me).

26 posted on 01/21/2010 7:29:09 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: marshmallow

Nice post - thanks.


27 posted on 01/21/2010 7:30:28 AM PST by GOPJ (Unexpected. Unexpected by the MSM. Unexpected by elites. Not "unexpected" by the people.)
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To: TexasCajun
I’m wondering if there are any reports of the opposite, falling into Dante’s Inferno?

There was one on FR about a week ago. Long story short: the once-agnostic Doctor who brought this heart-patient back from a completely horrifying vision of hell is now a Christian.

28 posted on 01/21/2010 7:30:33 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: marshmallow

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29 posted on 01/21/2010 7:31:08 AM PST by dubyagee (Thrilled to be here...)
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To: marshmallow

The afterlife. Massachusetts just discovered it.


30 posted on 01/21/2010 7:33:10 AM PST by cajuncow
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To: TexasCajun

Well, we really won’t know until after the fact.


31 posted on 01/21/2010 7:34:00 AM PST by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: waxer1
Anyway, while were there in May of 1992, unbeknownst to me, he started to give away personal items to people at UCSF including some patients. He gave away his matchbox cars, a item of clothing and a couple of his favorite books. I was told later what he did. HE KNEW!!! at two years old!!!

Thanks for sharing that. Very beautiful and sad at the same time.

32 posted on 01/21/2010 7:34:07 AM PST by riri (Resistance-It's the New Black)
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To: TexasCajun

Another person who went to Hell that comes to mind was Faith Movement pastor Kenneth Hagin Sr. “Pop” Hagin also wrote a booklet called “I went to Hell” where he described the experience.


33 posted on 01/21/2010 7:35:57 AM PST by hoagy62 (Obama: slowly sucking the positive attitude out of the US since 11-4-08)
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To: marshmallow

Baloney.
He has evidence that he just wrote a book.

Soon at fine retailers near you, of course.


34 posted on 01/21/2010 7:36:20 AM PST by djf (2010 in review: A handfull of Wall Street banks got way more help than Haiti!!!)
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To: waxer1

I knew a young girl with leukemia and she told the priest that she was ready to go but couldn’t until her mother was ready.

The day she died she was laying in her mother’s arms when she perked up and insisted that they had to kneel and pray and then she was in total peace.


35 posted on 01/21/2010 7:36:38 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: tiki

I can recall two teens who waited until thier mom’s accepted they were dying. I was there for one of them. Gustavo was 15, he told his mom that it was ok and to let him go home. He would be there for her. And that God would be right beside her.

She accepted this, and a few hours later he died in her arms. It was astounding!! He was a good kid.


36 posted on 01/21/2010 7:39:55 AM PST by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: waxer1

I am so sorry for your loss...thank you for sharing that story. (hug)


37 posted on 01/21/2010 7:40:01 AM PST by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Psalm 73

Case of misplaced comma. Try Luke 23:43 as, And Jesus said to him, “Truly I say to you today, you shall be with me in paradise.” In other words, “I’m telling you right now that someday you will be with me in paradise.”


38 posted on 01/21/2010 7:40:23 AM PST by Hootowl
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To: TexasCajun

I’ve seen such reports mentioned, but never found them myself. According to the summary I read, there are people whose NDE involved something so truly horrifying that they only remember it for a short time. A day or 2 later, they’d insist they experienced nothing, remembered nothing.

Once when I was a teenager I had a dream about Hell. I remember the fact that I saw it, but I don’t remember the details of what I saw. And to be honest, I never want to.


39 posted on 01/21/2010 7:42:32 AM PST by Ellendra (Can't starve us out, and you can't make us run. . . -Hank Jr.)
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To: Psalm 73
He said (according to the Bible) I tell you today you will be with me in Paradise. The KJV puts the comma after "you" but there is not punctuation in the original. So what if we put it after "today"? It would match the information about death in the rest of the Bible. The dead know nothing, for instance.

Plus Jesus was not in Paradise that day, but rested in the tomb until He was resurrected, and He would not have lied to the thief.
40 posted on 01/21/2010 7:42:49 AM PST by Shimmer1
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...yes yes, it's Chrissy Mathews, he has revealed he was a dog turd in a previous existence and that explains his tingling leg experience.

What? Same as he is in his present existence?

41 posted on 01/21/2010 7:46:30 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: TexasCajun

“...or no coming back, just the welcome matt.”

As in Chris “Matt”hews? He will likely be there...

(Not a judgement call. You will know them by their fruit...)


42 posted on 01/21/2010 7:47:22 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: Hootowl

koine Greek used punctuation marks?


43 posted on 01/21/2010 7:48:14 AM PST by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: Hootowl
"Case of misplaced comma."

Hmmm, I don't read Greek, but have never heard that from people who can read it - can you provide source-data for that?

44 posted on 01/21/2010 7:48:26 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Gamecock

I have a friend whose house caught on fire and whose 3 year old died from smoke inhalation. The firemen got to her and brought her back.

Later, she told her parents about talking with Jesus, and that he gave her cheerios to nibble on while they were talking. (she loved them as finger food). She also talked about how beautiful it was. They had never asked her about anything, she just volunteered this information one day.


45 posted on 01/21/2010 7:49:43 AM PST by Grammy (Politics. .......( poli ) many ( tics ) blood suckers)
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To: All

Interesting story on MSNBC.

82% of MSNBC’rs don’t believe in the afterlife, according to the unscientific poll.


46 posted on 01/21/2010 7:50:46 AM PST by rbmillerjr (It's us against them...the Establishment RINOs vs rank and file...Sarah Palin or bust)
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To: Doogle

A “Clinical Psychologist” should know better than this...


47 posted on 01/21/2010 7:51:38 AM PST by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: waxer1

Amazing story. I am so sorry for the pain you have suffered.


48 posted on 01/21/2010 7:57:29 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: Shimmer1
"....there is not punctuation in the original."
Another Greek scholar? Heaven is outside the box of space and time.

"....if we put it after "today"? It would match the information about death in the rest of the Bible. The dead know nothing, for instance."
Out of context. If we belong to Him, we go to heaven when we die - we know nothing about what is happening on earth, because earth is sinful and we have already been washed clean, which is why the saints cannot pray for you - Jesus intercedes directly for us - He is our advocate in Heaven.

"...Jesus was not in Paradise that day, but rested in the tomb until He was resurrected, and He would not have lied to the thief."
Again, Heaven is outside the box of space and time - it is not like here

49 posted on 01/21/2010 8:01:03 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: marshmallow

I see them too. They’re called children and grandchildren. Obla di Obla da.


50 posted on 01/21/2010 8:01:17 AM PST by PGalt
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