Skip to comments.Natural and Unnatural (father of 5 shocks mother of 1)
Posted on 01/27/2010 10:31:28 AM PST by NYer
I was over a friend's house picking up a buddy of mine this past weekend. He wasn't ready so I ended up hanging out for a few minutes with his wife and her friend. I'd met the other woman before but don't know her all that well. She was talking a mile a minute about how "natural" she lives and how great she feels. Of course, she was telling us that we should be living the same way. She lectured me about different herbs and how she's detoxing her body.
She's been "living naturally" since New Year's Day. (Her words)
She said she feels so much better ("fantabulous!!!" was her word) and she's been doing a lot of reading about all the "unnatural" chemicals people put in their bodies and how harmful it all is.
My buddy came into the room and rolled his eyes but I didn't know her well enough to joke about it since she seemed to take it all very seriously so I listened to her. Actually, I kind of pretended to listen by just nodding my head and occasionally grunting.
In the conversation my buddy joked about me "detoxing" my five children.
"What?!" gasped the woman. "Really? You really have five kids?"
One of the funny things about writing a Catholic blog is you sometimes forget that having five kids is a lot. But around the Catholic blogosphere I read about so many people who have that many children and many more that I forget how countercultural it is to have more than two children.
Then she asked me if I was crazy?
I responded I was. (I mean, how else do you respond to that?)
"My gosh," she said, slowing herself down for a moment. "I couldn't even imagine. One's enough for me. I'm not having anymore. My husband wants more but thank God for the Pill."
Ms. Natural Living is on the Pill?
I couldn't hold me tongue so I just threw it out there. "How does all this natural living coincide with all the chemicals you're putting in your body from the Pill?"
And then she said that she needs to be on the Pill because it allows her to live naturally. If she had more children then she wouldn't have the time to live the way she wanted to live, she said.
I held my tongue after that. Remember, I was the crazy one.
Erin Manning wrote:
What a horrific lie it is, to convince millions upon millions of healthy woman that their bodies' natural fertility is a terrible disease for which a decades-long prescription to a drug engineered to fight against it is not only necessary, but imperative!It is rather an oddity that with all this focus on natural foods that many women still don't consider birth control in the same manner.
There is natural birth control, but it involves one’s knees.
Yep... as we say here in Texas....”A good cowgirl keeps her calves together” ; )
Bumping this one. Ouch!
Using the pill is so counter-intuitive to good health. Estrogen supplements during menopause are pretty awful too.
After years of fertility problems, I did not go back on the Pill after I had my son. Actually, I tried to go back on it but stopped four days into the pack. They made me feel like crap, and I haven’t taken them since. After some research, I really don’t think that the Pill is all that safe, nor does it fix the problems that it claims to. I have PCOS and was put on the Pill when I was 16 to “help” the problem. Later I found out it only stalled the problem. After I had my son, I found out I had systemic candida and had probably had it for years. Systemic candida can cause PCOS. The Pill can help candida thrive in the body. Go figure.
As someone who has been charting for years, that doesn’t work as birth control either.
I think the “natural food” stuff is BS — buncha wacko granola—crunching sandal-wearing hippies ... we like our chicken hormone-laced and extra juicy.
But, the wife is on the pill — so we are consistently anti-natural (with the exception of breasts — in which case, I am extremely pro-natural. Haha.).
After marriage, knee-related birth-control is a tough sell.
Don’t tell them that... people who like NFP don’t believe those of us who tell them that having PCOS makes charting pretty much impossible. *rolls eyes* or at least mostly impossible. Last time I tried charting, if I’d been trying to avoid pregnancy my hubby and I would have had about five days of “safe” time that cycle.
My standard response to a living-natural-libtard (honed from years of living in Berkeley) is as follows:
Man, that is so-o-o-o cool! Pause. Do you have any idea how many nasty chemicals are in pot?
BTW, I grew up living “natural”. Only now days you’d call it “poverty”.
If the sin is thwarting God’s Will in terms of procreation, how is “natural” planning any better than “artificial” means? Aren’t you cheating God either way?
When my mother was born in 1919, the last of 9 kids, her mother’s birth control method was sharing her bed with my mother instead of my grandfather.
This may explain it better than I ever could:
But in general you are correct. "Natural" or "Organic" is mostly bunk with the following exceptions.
Chicken- Free range tend to used their muscles more and the meat gains in flavor. They also are older when harvested that also adds to the flavor.
Strawberries- Different breed then what is normally in the store. They do not ship or store well but taste wonderful.
Tomato- Once again a different breed that does not travel or store well.
Everything else pretty much tastes the same no matter if it is organic.
>> When my mother was born in 1919, the last of 9 kids, her mothers birth control method was sharing her bed with my mother instead of my grandfather.
Holy moly. 9 kids, and not getting any. Not sure how he did it ... I’d be a wreck.
Excuse me but that sounds like a rationalization to me.