Posted on 01/29/2010 1:48:24 PM PST by lightman
You raise some interesting points here that I definitely intend to ponder.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer is, in my mind at least, one of the modern giants of theological thought. I have long considered him a martyr, but his death was not actually for the the Faith. However, he was clearly prepared to die for the faith, but the Nazis executed him (there was no record of the trial) for other reasons. The Catholic Church (and I believe the Lutheran and Anglican Churches) have always listed Saint John as a martyr even though he didn’t die a martyr’s death, he was placed in boiling oil and emerged unscathed when he should have died and was fully prepared to die.
He took one for his beliefs!
The Dr did not make even one of the women do what they paid him to do. Are you going to have all of the women killed?
NO, But they should not work for that place.
By the way how many babies have been put to death since roe vs wade?
On most Western calendars the festival of St. John is titled “St. John, Apostle and Evangelist”. The same title is used for St. Matthew. Luke and Mark are titled as simply “Evangelist”; the other (non Gospel-writing) Apostles such as James and Bartholomew are titled as “Apostle”.
All except St. John the Apostle and Evangelist are celebrated with red vestments, John the “martyr in will but not in deed” is celebrated with white.
40 million.
Judgment is his. No one else’s. Look at Barnard Nathanson. God will deal with Tiller in his own time and his own way.
I agree with his motivations for killer Tiller, but violence is never justified. Why make Tiller a martyr? He was 75. Let him retire and rot and be forgotten.
It is now between him and G_d. We can, and should punish him on Earth. The Lord will have the last word. This one is definitely above my pay grade.
Now you’re cooking!
I seem to recall large POLITICAL contributions by TILLER to the GOVERNOR. If not a thief, is she a co-conspirator?
Am I going to hell?
You must think there is a difference in your eternal security between shooting a psychopath on a rampage or shooting an abortion doctor on the street, otherwise you would have pulled the trigger on Tiller yourself long ago.
The Dr did not make even one of the women do what they paid him to do. Are you going to have all of the women killed
you aren’t very smart, are you?? Murder has a legal definition and I would have ruled this a justifiable homocide. This guy’s attorney leaves a lot to be desired....O.J. walks, and this guy goes to prison...figures
No you are the only one who knows anything LOL What stupid remard you have made.
No you are the only one who knows anything LOL What stupid remard you have made.
what is a remard?
He had essentially bought the State of KS from the Gov. on down, including Atty's Gen (except Phill Kline, that's why he was so vilified), House & Senate "leaders" from both parties, Prosecutors and even Judges, all the way up to the KS Supreme Ct.
In fact, the State of KS was and is being run as a criminal enterprise, solely for the purpose of keeping Geo. Tiller in the business of butchering babies for $$$ and many of those $$$ went to buying silence and overlooking crimes: performing abortions of girls under 15 (a crime of rape that should have been reported); women, whose sole reason for getting a "late term" abortion (after 25 wks.), was that either they weren't going to be able to attend a rock concert, play sports or she "might" not be able to keep her boyfriend!
That Tiller personified true evil, was never in doubt, what has been shameful for decades is that any and all government official charged with the job of enforcing laws that had been passed to prevent the butchering of babies, after the law clearly said must not be performed, looked the other way, or worse yet, lied to prevent his prosecution.
In one case in Wichita, two sisters (11 & 13) were impregnated twice each and forced to have abortions by their step-father, until one girl said to her teacher that she didn't want to be forced to get another abortion because, "it hurts so much!"
If the abortions he performed weren't illegal in and of themselves, the very people who are supposed to protect children against sexual assault, willfully looked the other way, to hide what was going on.
There's no doubt that Roeder is guilty of killing Tiller, he admitted it in court. Did he feel that multiple crimes were being committed by Tiller, while most all KS elected and/or paid "leaders" looked the other way, or worse, stood in the way of prosecution, absolutely, he also said so in court!
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