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Joseph, Mary and Jesus: A Model Family
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Posted on 02/13/2010 10:05:10 AM PST by Salvation

Joseph, Mary and Jesus: A Model Family

by Fr. Rufus Pereira

Introduction:

The Feast of St. Joseph the Worker, on 1st May, should take us back to the double Solemnity of the Annunciation of the Lord, on 25th March, (4th April this year), and of his Birth, on 25th December, that commemorates and celebrates the greatest event that ever took place of the Almighty God's intervention in weak humankind: the Nativity, and the greatest mystery that ever was of the Holy God's love for sinful man: the Incarnation (Jn 1:14, 3:16). But a re-reading of the two Infancy Narratives (Mt 1 & 2; Lk 1 & 2) reminds us not just of God's unique gift of his divine Trinitarian self to broken human beings for their healing and deliverance, but also of God's unique gift of a human communitarian family to damaged families for their inspiration and even imitation - the Holy Family of Nazareth. The pattern of Joseph's relationship with Mary and Jesus, of Mary's relationship with Joseph and Jesus, and of Jesus' relationship with Joseph and Mary, described in these two narratives, sets us an extraordinary exemplar of what family relationships could and should be in every Christian home.

Mary fully trusted Joseph who in his turn was truly concerned about her:

Mary had been engaged to Joseph but, before they came to live together, she was found to be pregnant. Being a righteous man however he did not want to expose her to public disgrace, and instead planned to send her away quietly. He was about to do this, when in a dream an angel told him not to be reluctant to take Mary as his wife, for the child conceived in her was from the Holy Spirit (Mt 1:18-20). Joseph did as the Lord had directed him - he took her as his wife (Mt 1:24). Mathew thus gives the genealogy of Jesus through Joseph, as the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born (Mt 1:16). The very first test of his betrothal was, as the greatest trial of any marriage is, the test and trial of suspicion, - that of being led, contrary to all appearances, to suspect the woman whom he loved and who he was certain loved him too. One can imagine what must have been going on in Joseph's mind and heart. And only when God revealed the divine mystery to him that Joseph, being basically a just man and a loyal husband, knew at last that Mary was faithful to God without being unfaithful to man.

Similarly, the very first test of Mary's relationship with Joseph was also that of suspicion, the most painful and very common trial of a wife being suspected by the man whom she truly loves and who she knows loves her too. When the angel Gabriel revealed to her that she would conceive and bear a son to be named Jesus, who will be called the Son of God and will be King forever, Mary was obviously taken aback and asked how could she being a virgin conceive and bear a child (Lk 1:31-34). If, as a tradition suggests, Joseph and Mary had privately committed themselves to remain virgins even in the married state, Mary's question was that of discerning which was God's will: that she remain a virgin and be childless or marry and be a mother. The angel's answer was that both was God's will: to remain a virgin, though married, and to still bear a child - something humanly impossible becoming divinely possible by the power of the Holy Spirit. Mary's response was an expression both of her submission to God's will and of her faith in his word (Lk 1:38), a submission and faith which are needed not for something difficult but not impossible, as in Zacharias' case, but for something humanly impossible as in Abraham's case too, a submission to God and a faith in him expressing itself in submission to and faith in her husband Joseph (Lk 1:35-48).

Jesus proudly looked up to Joseph who cherished and protected him as his own son:

Joseph must have been in a very close relationship with God to receive in dreams through the angel divine messages of such great and universal import, upon which he acted instantly and unquestioningly, in two very mysterious and difficult situations. The first message was to take in Mary as his wife in spite of her being pregnant, while still only betrothed to him, because she had conceived by the Holy Spirit, and to accept her child as his own son by giving him the name chosen by God himself (Mt 1:21,25). Mathew thus gives the genealogy of Jesus through Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born (Mt 1:16). (How often adopted children want to know who their real fathers are, forgetting what Jesus taught, that we have only one real Father in heaven, and what Paul repeated, that every fatherhood has its origin in the fatherhood of God himself.) The second message, or rather set of three angelic messages, Joseph received again in dreams that enabled him to protect the child's life from danger. He trusted and followed this divine guidance fully, whether warned to take the child, whose life was threatened by King Herod, and his mother, and flee into Egypt (Mt 2:13), or prompted to bring the child and his mother back to Israel, after Herod's death, or cautioned again, when Archelaus the son of Herod became the new ruler in Judea, to proceed instead to Nazareth in Galilee (Mt 2:19-23).

On his part Jesus was identified and looked at as 'the son of Joseph' especially when he began his ministry (Lk:3:23). Even though his teaching dazzled his hearers at the synagogue in his home town, they would not easily forget that he was after all just the son of Joseph the carpenter (Lk:4:22), not realising that Joseph was himself of the lineage of King David (Mt 1:20; Lk 1:32). It was as the son of Joseph from Nazareth, that Jesus was identified by Philip to be the longed for Messias spoken of by Moses and the prophets (Jn 1:45), - Nazareth, an unknown village, not even mentioned in the Old Testament, of which Nathaniel would then scornfully say, "Can anything good come out of Nazareth?" (Jn 1:36). And when Jesus proclaimed that he was the bread that had come down from heaven, the Jews remonstrated, "But is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know?" (Jn 6:41-42). But I love to think that it was not in spite of being the son of Joseph that Jesus' greatness shone forth, but also because he was the son of Joseph, not biologically as the real son but emotionally as the proud 'son' of a proud 'father', proud of the way his father had brought him up and taught him his trade. (For every true child loves his Mum but boasts of his Dad.) The finest thing then said about Jesus was that he was a son subjected not only to God, but also to the man God had placed over him.

Jesus obeyed Mary unequivocally even when she did not fully understand her son:

The discovery that Jesus, then twelve years old, was not with them at the end of the first day's return journey from Jerusalem to Nazareth, must have disturbed Mary and Joseph tremendously, because of their seeming lack of responsibility and the possible loss of their only son (Lk 2:31-45). (For the greatest pain a mother goes through is not in the sickness or death of their offspring but in the uncertainty of his ultimate fate - kidnapped or just missing.) But greater than such a distress was first their amazement in finding him three days later in the temple, putting questions to the doctors of the law and giving the answers himself (Lk 2:46-48), and then their bafflement at the behaviour of their otherwise responsible son staying behind in Jerusalem without informing them, "Child, why have you treated us like this?" and so causing them so much fear and pain, "Look, your father and I have been searching for you in great anxiety" (Lk 2:43-48). But the greatest anguish was Jesus' enigmatic defense and explanation of his strange action, "Why were you searching for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father's house and about my Father's interests?" (Lk 2:48-49). Like some mothers Mary went through the pain of the possible physical loss of her only son and like all mothers the still greater emotional loss of her baby son now grown up, more knowledgeable and more independent, and the consequent shock of the generation gap. A sword did pierce her heart, as Simeon had prophesied (Lk 2:34,35).

Jesus' retort to Mary may therefore sound at first brusque and querulous, - but actions speak louder and clearer than words, - and the episode continues, and ends, - by Jesus going down with them to their home in Nazareth, where he was subject to them (Lk 2:51). (What a contrast is this with the behaviour of two teenage sons of a well-known Catholic family of Mumbai who migrated to London two years ago in order to give them a better future. They have been coming home very late every night, their mother complained to me recently, and have never spoken to or even greeted her or their father.) Jesus' obedience to his human parents was a training school for his more exacting submission to his heavenly Father, (the Holy Spirit being given only to those who obey him - Acts 5:12), and an augury for his final victory, (the evil one having no power over him because he always obeyed the commands of his Father - Jn 14:30), in becoming obedient even to death, and that too on a cross (Phil 2:8).

Conclusion:

It is no wonder then that the Lucan Infancy narrative concludes with the double comment: firstly that, though Mary did not understand all these things, she treasured them in her heart, as any mother would do, and secondly that, with the grace of God, his heavenly Father, and under the tutelage of Joseph and Mary, his earthly parents, the child Jesus grew in wisdom and quality, - and was increasingly pleasing to both God and man (Lk 2:19,40, 50-52). May every father then be another Joseph, the upright worker, the respected and trusted head of the family, and every mother another Mary, the devoted homemaker, the warm and caring heart of the family


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The Holy Family: Jesus, Mary & Joseph

The Holy Family
Jesus, Mary & Joseph

Feast Day
Sunday within the Octave of Christmas

Sunday After Christmas

When a Sunday does not occur between December 25 and January 1, this feast is celebrated on December 30 with only one reading before the Gospel.


The Holy Family - h h hitchcock (pencil)

Venerunt pastores festinantes, et invenerunt Mariam et Joseph et Infantem positum in praesepio (Luke 2:16)

The shepherds hastened to Bethlehem, where they found Mary and Joseph, and the baby lying in a manger. (Luke 2:16 - Entrance Antiphon)

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Collect for the Feast of the Holy Family
Scripture Readings
Pope John Paul II's prayer for the Family - 2004
Prayers for the Blessing of a Child, for a Happy Marriage
Directory of Popular Piety | Catechism of the Catholic Church
Church Documents on the Family | "Familiaris Consortio On the Role of the Christian Family in the Modern World'

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Collect:

Father,
help us to live as a holy family,
united in respect and love.
Bring us to the joy and peace of your eternal home.
Grant this through our Lord Jesus Christ, your SOn,
who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit,
one God, for ever and ever. Amen +

or

Father in heaven, creator of all,
you ordered the earth to bring forth life
and crowned its goodness by creating the family of man.
In history's moment when all was ready,
you sent your Son to dwell in time,
obedient to the laws of life in our worlk.
Teach us the sanctity of human love,
show us the value of family life,
and help to live in peace with all men
that we may share in your life for ever.

We ask this through Christ our Lord. Amen +

Readings for Mass:
RSV-CE translation

First Reading: Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) 3: 2-7, 12-14
For the Lord honored the father above the children,
and He confirmed the right of the mother over her sons.
Whoever honors his father atones for sins,
and whoever glorifies his mother
is like one who lays up treasure.
Whoever honors his father will be gladdened by his own children,
and when he prays he will be heard.
Whoever glorifies his father will have long life,
and whoever obeys the Lord will refresh his mother;
he will serve his parents as his masters.

O son, help your father in his old age,
and do not grieve him as long as he lives;
even if he is lacking in understanding, show forbearance;
in all your strength do not despise him.
For kindness to a father will not be forgotten,
and against your sins it will be credited to you.

OR 1 Sm 1:20-22, 24-28
Hannah conceived and bore a son, and she called his name Samuel, for she said, "I have asked him of the LORD." And the man Elkanah and all his house went up to offer to the LORD the yearly sacrifice, and to pay his vow. But Hannah did not go up, for she said to her husband, "As soon as the child is weaned, I will bring him, that he may appear in the presence of the LORD, and abide there for ever."

And when she had weaned him, she took him up with her, along with a three-year-old bull, an ephah of flour, and a skin of wine; and she brought him to the house of the LORD at Shiloh; and the child was young. Then they slew the bull, and they brought the child to Eli. And she said, "Oh, my lord! As you live, my lord, I am the woman who was standing here in your presence, praying to the LORD. For this child I prayed; and the LORD has granted me my petition which I made to him. Therefore I have lent him to the LORD; as long as he lives, he is lent to the LORD." And they worshiped the LORD there.

Responsorial Psalm: Psalm 84:2-3, 5-6, 9-10

R. Blessed are they who dwell in your house, O Lord.

My soul longs, yea, faints for the courts of the LORD;
my heart and flesh sing for joy to the living God.
Even the sparrow finds a home,
and the swallow a nest for herself,
where she may lay her young, at thy altars,
O LORD of hosts, my King and my God.

R. Blessed are they who dwell in your house, O Lord.

5 Blessed are the men whose strength is in thee,
in whose heart are the highways to Zion.
6 As they go through the valley of Baca they make it a place of springs;
the early rain also covers it with pools.

R. Blessed are they who dwell in your house, O Lord.

9 Behold our shield, O God;
look upon the face of thine anointed!
10 For a day in thy courts is better than a thousand elsewhere.
I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God
than dwell in the tents of wickedness.

R. Blessed are they who dwell in your house, O Lord.

Second Reading: Col 3:12-21
Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassion, kindness, lowliness, meekness, and patience, forbearing one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony. And let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called in the one body. And be thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teach and admonish one another in all wisdom, and sing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs with thankfulness in your hearts to God. And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.

Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them. Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord. Fathers, do not provoke your children, lest they become discouraged.

OR Col 3:12-17
Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassion, kindness, lowliness, meekness, and patience, forbearing one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony. And let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called in the one body. And be thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teach and admonish one another in all wisdom, and sing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs with thankfulness in your hearts to God. And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.

OR 1 John 3:1-2,21-24

See what love the Father has given us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Beloved, we are God's children now; it does not yet appear what we shall be, but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.

Beloved, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God; and we receive from him whatever we ask, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him. And this is his commandment, that we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. All who keep his commandments abide in him, and he in them. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit which he has given us.

Gospel Reading - Matthew 2:13-15, 19-23

Now when they had departed, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, "Rise, take the child and His mother, and flee to Egypt, and remain there till I tell you; for Herod is about to search for the child, to destroy Him." And he rose and took the child and His mother by night, and departed to Egypt, and remained there until the death of Herod. This was to fulfil what the Lord had spoken by the prophet, "Out of Egypt have I called My Son."

But when Herod died, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, saying, "Rise, take the child and His mother, and go to the land of Israel, for those who sought the child's life are dead." And he rose and took the child and His mother, and went to the land of Israel. But when he heard that Archelaus reigned over Judea in place of his father Herod, he was afraid to go there, and being warned in a dream he withdrew to the district of Galilee. And he went and dwelt in a city called Nazareth, that what was spoken by the prophets might be fulfilled, "He shall be called a Nazarene."

Pope John Paul II - Prayer from Angelus Message for the Feast of the Holy Family 2004

"May the Holy Family, who had to overcome many painful trials, watch over all the families in the world, especially those who are experiencing difficult situations. May the Holy Family also help men and women of culture and political leaders so that they may defend the institution of the family, based on marriage, and so that they may sustain the family as it confronts the grave challenges of the modern age!

"During this Year of the Eucharist may Christian families find the light and strength to be united and to grow as the 'domestic church' especially in their diligent participation in the celebration of the Eucharist on Sunday.

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The Scripture readings for the Feast of the Holy Family show the love between Mary, Joseph and Jesus, and also tell the mystery of the Incarnate God subjecting Himself to the authority of His earthly parents. Parents might offer a special blessing prayer for their children or for their marriage on this feast. Two such prayers are below:

The Blessing of a Child
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God, who came to earth as an infant and thus sanctified childhood, pour the graces of thy blessing upon [Name], thy child, being mindful of the faith and devotion of the Church and of us, his {her} parents; so that, growing in virtue and wisdom before God and men, [Name] may attain a blessed old age and enjoy eternal salvation: Who livest and reignest forever and ever Amen.

A Prayer for a Happy Marriage
Lord Jesus Christ, who by thy presence at the wedding feast at Cana didst bless the state of Holy Matrimony; and by thy love and favor hath raised marriage to the dignity of a sacrament: Grant that we may be ever faithful to the marriage vows that we nave pledged. May all that we do bring us to greater love for each other and for thee. May no act of ours be unworthy in thy sight. May we never forget the ends for which matrimony has been instituted. And especially may we never, through selfishness, defile ourselves and our unity in mutual love by any action displeasing to thee. Teach us to trust in thy gracious mercy. May we gratefully receive children, and train and guide them with wise responsibility in the knowledge of thy love. Grant us the spiritual and temporal means to raise these children according to thy will. And may we worthily receive thy grace and favor through the sacramental bond of marriage. May every expression of our love for one another be united to our love for thee. Who livest and reignest forever and ever. Amen.
(Adapted from Mother's Manual, by A. Francis Comes, S.J., William J. Hirten Co., Inc., 1984)



From the Directory on Popular Piety and the Liturgy

The Feast of the Holy Family

112. The feast of the holy family of Jesus, Mary and Joseph (Sunday in the Christmas octave) is a festive occasion particularly suitable for the celebration of rites or moments of prayer proper to the Christian family. The recollection of Joseph, Mary and Jesus' going up to Jerusalem, together with other observant Jewish families, for the celebration of the Passover (cf. Lk 2:41-42), should normally encourage a positive acceptance of the pastoral suggestion that all members of the family attend Mass on this day. This feast day also affords an opportunity for the renewal of our entrustment to the patronage of the Holy Family of Nazareth(120); the blessing of children as provided in the ritual(121); and where opportune, for the renewal of marriage vows taken by the spouses on their wedding day, and also for the exchange of promises between those engaged to be married in which they formalize their desire to found a new Christian family(122).

Outside of the feast, the faithful have frequent recourse to the Holy Family of Nazareth in many of life's circumstances: joining the Association of the Holy Family so as to model their own families on the Holy Family of Nazareth(123); frequent prayers to entrust themselves to the patronage of the Holy Family and to obtain assistance at the hour of death(124).


From the Catechism of the Catholic Church
533 The hidden life at Nazareth allows everyone to enter into fellowship with Jesus by the most ordinary events of daily life:

The home of Nazareth is the school where we begin to understand the life of Jesus - the school of the Gospel. First, then, a lesson of silence. May esteem for silence, that admirable and indispensable condition of mind, revive in us. . . A lesson on family life. May Nazareth teach us what family life is, its communion of love, its austere and simple beauty, and its sacred and inviolable character... A lesson of work. Nazareth, home of the "Carpenter's Son", in you I would choose to understand and proclaim the severe and redeeming law of human work. . . To conclude, I want to greet all the workers of the world, holding up to them their great pattern their brother who is God.

534 The finding of Jesus in the temple is the only event that breaks the silence of the Gospels about the hidden years of Jesus. Here Jesus lets us catch a glimpse of the mystery of his total consecration to a mission that flows from his divine sonship: "Did you not know that I must be about my Father's work?" Mary and Joseph did not understand these words, but they accepted them in faith. Mary "kept all these things in her heart" during the years Jesus remained hidden in the silence of an ordinary life.




Church Documents on Families

"Twenty years since 'Familiaris Consortio': The Anthropological and Pastoral Dimension" -- Pontifical Council for the Family Conclusions of the Theological-Pastoral Congress (December 20, 2001)

Message on Familiaris Consortio -- 20th Anniversary (November 22, 2001)

Preparation for the Sacrament of Marriage -- Pontifical Council for the Family (May 13, 1996)

The Truth and Meaning of Human Sexuality -- Guidelines for Education within the Family - Pontifical Council for the Family (December 8, 1995)

The Pastoral Care of the Family -- Message to Pontifical Council on the Family 1992

Charter of the Rights of the Family -- Pontifical Council on the Family (1983)

Familiaris Consortio -- On the Christian Family - Apostolic Exhortation, 1981



Familiaris Consortio -- on the Role of the Christian Family in the Modern World by Helen Hull Hitchcock (Nov 1, 2001)

Go to the Article Index for more on the Family!

21 posted on 12/26/2010 1:33:52 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Are you feeling a little inadequate today, cutting and pasting articles to almost a year old thread?


22 posted on 12/26/2010 1:36:51 PM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: eastforker

I often do that on Feast Days — I could not find a current article that I liked.


23 posted on 12/26/2010 1:40:27 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: eastforker
 
 
A blessed Christmas to you!

24 posted on 12/26/2010 1:41:27 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RnMomof7

Considering the prevalence of Scriptural references in this article, I think it is classic nit-picking to say that “much of it is fictional”.

You write “ we need to read it with the understanding that much of it is fictional”. That may be your subjective understanding.

I don’t need to read it with that understanding. I read it with the understanding that plentiful Scriptural references are offered.

You say you “have great respect for Joseph as a man of God that(sic) parented Jesus in his early years.”

I see Joseph as the second person after Mary to accept the coming birth of Jesus, the second person after Mary to witness the face of the Incarnate Word, the person assigned by angels to protect and support the Infant Jesus and His Mother into Egypt and then back home again. Joseph is the father to whom Jesus placed Himself, under his roof, eating the bread Joseph supplied—He who would become Bread for us all.

Yes, we know that “scripture is silent about the actual family life of Jesus”. But in those years between the Finding of Jesus in the Temple and the opening of His public ministry, we also have no knowledge of when in that time frame that Joseph died. He possibly could have lived until Jesus had reached his full maturity; in which case that could have been many years in which the Holy Family shared the intimacy and unity of family life.


25 posted on 12/26/2010 2:44:17 PM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Salvation

“A Man of Exile”
A poem by Rev. Hugh Blunt

Little Jesus, close Thy lids
in the shades of pyramids;
cuddle in Thy Mother’s breast,
fear is fled, now calmly rest.
Little Jesus, Holy One,
child Who art my foster-son,
I have led Thee weary miles,
saving Thee from Herod’s wiles,
O’er the burning Afric’ sand
into Egypt’s bondage land,
where our sainted fathers slaved,
ere the God of Justice saved.

Child of her, my virgin spouse,
whom the humble barn did house,
lowlier dwelling here give I,
couch of sand beneath the sky.
Jesus, must it ever be
pain and poverty for Thee?
Oh, my love would rear a throne
richer than the Pharaoh’s own;
I would build for Thee and her,
I, a lowly carpenter,
palaces of precious stone,
where we three might dwell alone.

Little one, I do but dream
of the things that pleasant seem.
What would we with kingly home,
we who bidden are to roam?
What would we with joys of earth,
we who knew whence Thou hadst birth?
Life is but an Egypt night,
where we yearn for morning’s light;
life is but a bondage place,
till we see Thy Father’s Face.
Bondage—ah, but, Little Child,
Thou hast made our bondage mild.
Into bondage have I led
Her and Thee my worshipped;
But when comes the Lord’s command,
back to Thine own Holy Land
I will lead Thee, Little Slave,
there to die, my soul to save.
Then, my Jesus, Thou wilt be
Guardian of her and me,
leading us from Egypt’s night
into God’s eternal light.


26 posted on 12/26/2010 3:04:47 PM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Mad Dawg

Ping


27 posted on 12/26/2010 3:05:59 PM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: eastforker; Salvation

That’s a small matter to be concerned about.


28 posted on 12/26/2010 3:30:26 PM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Running On Empty

Cute poem, too bad it is full of falacies. Pyramids where never mentioned in the bible. Abraham let on to the pharoes his wife Sarah was his sister so they wouldn’t kill him for her since she was so pretty. Abraham was not treated as a slave, as a matter of fact, the pharoah’s gave him land and cattle for his sister(wife).Truth is, Abraham was one hell of a con man when he entered egypt.


29 posted on 12/26/2010 3:40:55 PM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: Running On Empty
St. Teresa's "Guarantee" --

To other Saints Our Lord seems to have given power to succor us in some special necessity - but to this glorious Saint, I know by experience, He has given the power to help us in all. Our Lord would have us understand that as He was subject to St. Joseph on earth - for St. Joseph, bearing the title of father and being His guardian, could command Him - so now in Heaven Our Lord grants us all his petitions. I have asked others to recommend themselves to St. Joseph, and they, too, know the same experience...

Autobiography, VI, 9

30 posted on 12/26/2010 4:04:36 PM PST by maryz
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To: eastforker

It’s a poem.

Poetry is an art form, just as surely as paintings are.

It wasn’t intended to be “cute”, even if that’s your subjective view.

May God bless you with a very good Christmastide.

ROE


31 posted on 12/26/2010 4:37:07 PM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Running On Empty

It is fictional..it is not nit picking..

I did not say the family life of Jesus was not important to Jesus ..but if it was important for us, for our lives or our salvation.. God would have recorded it for our benefit

He did not


32 posted on 12/27/2010 10:13:31 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: RnMomof7

I haven’t changed my mind.


33 posted on 12/27/2010 3:56:43 PM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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