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Dissident Nun Set to Address Canada's Televised Catholic Lenten Mission (Heads up in Canada!)
Life Site News ^ | February 12, 2010 | Patrick B. Craine

Posted on 02/14/2010 6:24:52 AM PST by NYer

TORONTO, Ontario, February 12, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The National Catholic Broadcasting Council (NCBC), which airs the daily Mass on Vision TV, has announced that they will be hosting a religious sister on their annual televised Lenten mission. But the nun in question, Sr. Joan Chittister, is renowned for promoting positions contrary to Christian teaching, including on the issues of abortion, contraception and women's “ordination.”

Sr. Joan Chittister will address this year's mission, which is set for March 29-30 on Vision TV with the theme “A God for All Seasons.”  Sr. Chittister told LifeSiteNews.com (LSN) that her talk focuses on the “spirituality of aging,” but, she said, she is “more inclined to call it a lifestyle for the 21st century.”

Sr. Chittister also admitted to LSN that she holds positions diverging from Catholic teaching.  “It's not an opposition position,” she explained.  “It is a position of query, of theological and scriptural commitment and search.”

For example, she said, “I felt that the question of the role and place of women in the Church was a necessary discussion, and that it stood on strong theological concerns.”

“We argue that [women] are not – not only are they not fit matter to be ordained, as if Jesus came to earth to be male instead of flesh, but we don't even see women as fit matter to have their feet washed in a church on Holy Thursday,” she offered as one example of the Church's 'sexism'.  “Now, we have a double standard, and we have had it for a long long time.  It needs to be reviewed.”

In addition to her advocacy of women's ordination, Sr. Chittister has also taken positions contrary to Church teaching on life and family issues, such as those regarding abortion, contraception, and homosexuality.

In her interview with LSN, she insisted that she opposes abortion “as a birth control method of choice.”

However, “my problem lies in the fact that we make it an absolute,” she added.  “We say that we can never, under any circumstances whatsoever, allow abortion, and yet we allow death.

“Men, men can kill for a number of reasons,” she continued.  “Men can kill to defend themselves, men can kill to defend the country, men can kill to punish the people that they believe should be killed.  And we never call those deaths absolute. ...  But in abortion, we allow no discussion whatsoever of possible times when it would not be a matter.”

Several bishops have taken action to prevent the dissemination of Sr. Chittister's views in the past.

In 2007, Bishop Barry Jones of Christchurch, New Zealand, decried her speaking engagement in his diocese, making it clear that she was neither welcome nor authorized to speak.  "The point is that silence generates the misunderstanding that this is all approved, when it's not. I have made my position clear to the priests," Bishop Jones said. "I don't see how I, as a bishop, can advance the teachings of the Catholic Church by appearing to condone other views."

In 2001, the dioceses of Pittsburgh and Peoria opted out of the National Catholic Education Association convocation, citing Sr. Chittister's presence there as a speaker.

The National Catholic Broadcasting Council (NCBC) has come under scrutiny in the past because of its relationship with Vision TV, which has manifested a strong and enduring anti-Catholic bias, and has even given abortionist Henry Morgentaler a platform.  LSN reported in 2005 that NCBC was paying Vision TV over $700,000 per year to air its programming.

LSN spoke with the National Catholic Broadcasting Council on Thursday and was told a spokesperson would return the call.  After that, repeated calls over two days were not returned.

The Archdiocese of Toronto, where NCBC is based and which lists NCBC as a “media partner” on its website, did not wish to comment.


Contact Information:

National Catholic Broadcasting Council
21 Dunlop Street
Richmond Hill, Ontario, L4C 2M6
Toll Free: 1-888-383-6277
Local: 905-884-6899
Fax: 905-884-5164
E-mail: b-mcmanus@rogers.com

Archbishop Thomas Collins
Archdiocese of Toronto Catholic Pastoral Centre
1155 Yonge Street
Toronto, Ontario, M4T 1W2
Telephone: (416) 934-0606, ext. 609
Fax: (416) 934-3452
E-mail: archbishop@archtoronto.org


See related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:

New Zealand Bishop Speaks Out Against Visit of Pro-Abortion Nun
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/jul/07070302.html

DIOCESES REJECT NATIONAL CATHOLIC EDUCATION CONVENTION DUE TO DISSIDENT SPEAKER
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2001/feb/01020702.html

Catholic-Supported Canadian TV Station Attacking Church Yet Again
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2006/feb/06020203.html

Vision TV Moving toward More Openly Anti-Catholic Bias
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2006/jan/06010905.html

Over $700,000 Catholic Church Funds to Canadian Anti-Catholic TV Network Questioned
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/oct/05102402.html


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: canada; chittister; dissent; lent

1 posted on 02/14/2010 6:24:52 AM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 02/14/2010 6:25:16 AM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Of possible interest to you.


3 posted on 02/14/2010 6:26:07 AM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: fanfan

of possible interest to the Canada list?


4 posted on 02/14/2010 6:32:04 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: NYer

Why would they give her a platform, unless they agree with her? In that case the Church should replace the management.


5 posted on 02/14/2010 6:51:38 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: NYer

“But in abortion, we allow no discussion whatsoever of possible times when it would not be a matter.”

Uh, Sister Joan that’s because babies are always innocent. Always.


6 posted on 02/14/2010 6:53:35 AM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: NYer
However, “my problem lies in the fact that we make it an absolute,” she added. “We say that we can never, under any circumstances whatsoever, allow abortion, and yet we allow death.

But in abortion, we allow no discussion whatsoever of possible times when it would not be a matter.”

The intrinsically disordered Chittister is wrong, yet again.

Charter For Health Care Workers

142. Ethical delegitimization applies to all forms of direct abortion, since it is an intrinsically blameworthy act. The use of substances or means which impede the implantation of the fertilized embryo or which cause its premature detachment is also an act of abortion. A doctor who would knowingly prescribe or apply such substances or means would cooperate in the abortion.

If the abortion follows as a foreseen but nor intended or willed but merely tolerated consequence of a therapeutic act essential for the mother's health, this is morally legitimate. The abortion in this case is the indirect result of an act which is not in itself abortive.273

273 CF Pius XII To "Face of the Family" and the "Associations of Large Families," Nov. 27, 1951, in AAS 43 (1951) p. 859.

7 posted on 02/14/2010 7:23:15 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: markomalley; Clive; exg; kanawa; backhoe; -YYZ-; Squawk 8888; headsonpikes; AntiKev; Snowyman; ...
Thanks for the ping, markomalley.


8 posted on 02/14/2010 7:27:22 AM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan

“Sr. Chittister has also taken positions contrary to Church teaching on life and family issues, such as those regarding abortion, contraception, and homosexuality.”

The money quote here. Good tree, good fruit, bad tree bad fruit. Why is it that the apparently sexist Church believes that killing little girls is wrong?


9 posted on 02/14/2010 7:43:53 AM PST by BenKenobi (;)
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To: NYer

Why dont these so-called “Nuns” just leave the Church ?

In effect they have left it anyway.
The Church does not exist to give anyone who doesnt agree with one of it’s rules the chance to have that rule changed.

If you dont like the rules GTF out. Start your own religion.
L. Ron Hubbard did it. Find yourself a Martian to adore and get on with it. The Church has no room for a feminist movement.

If and when it does subscribe to Feminist and Homosexual Priests I will follow my own advice and Get Out.


10 posted on 02/14/2010 8:00:20 AM PST by Venturer
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To: NYer; vladimir998
“Men, men can kill for a number of reasons,” she continued. “Men can kill to defend themselves, men can kill to defend the country, men can kill to punish the people that they believe should be killed. And we never call those deaths absolute. ... But in abortion, we allow no discussion whatsoever of possible times when it would not be a matter.”

Chittister has been casting the moral condemnation of abortion as discrimation against women, in exactly the terms described above, for 40 years. She has been corrected many times on this. I have done it myself, directly, and to her face.

Knowing that she has repeatedly had the elemntary moral distinctions explained to her in a manner than any person of adequate intelligence could understand, I don't know how to explain her continued obfuscations except in terms of bad faith.

Not a permanent judgment, but a plausible hypothesis.

We must pray for her.

11 posted on 02/14/2010 8:11:11 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("As it is written, the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." Romans 2:24)
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To: Venturer

You wrote:

“Why dont these so-called “Nuns” just leave the Church?”

In Donna Steichen’s Ungodly Rage, she shows how these “nuns” are staying in the church so they can subvert it from within. They don’t want the Church to be healthy (as we would see it) so they stay in it to twist it to their sick vision. http://books.google.com/books?id=8i92QoLJvuUC&pg=PA160&lpg=PA160&dq=donna+steichen+leave+the+church&source=bl&ots=OQ9eqe2AfV&sig=ctlRYzUM_F-q4XUXxeudBSk8YWo&hl=en&ei=9iZ4S7_OA4ewsgPkm7S8Cw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CBgQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=reform&f=false


12 posted on 02/14/2010 8:42:35 AM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Sent to b-mcmanus@rogers.com
National Catholic Broadcasting Council

Dear NCBC,

I lived and worked with the Benedictine Sisters of Erie, Sr. Joan Chittister's religious associates, for eleven years. I am well acquainted with both the strengths and the weaknesses of her public witness to the Faith.

Inasmuch as Sr.Chittister will appear with your sponsorship to discuss a theology of aging, it seems unnlikely that she will broach the subjects for which her unfaithfulness to the Faith and Morals of the Catholic Church have made her notorious: abortion, contraception, and unlawful ordination.

However, the public prominence she has given to these grave errors makes her unsituable for your forum, or for any Catholic platform.

I wish to give you only one example, though these could be multiplied. Sr. Chittister has often voiced the following error:

“Men, men can kill for a number of reasons,” she continued. “Men can kill to defend themselves, men can kill to defend the country, men can kill to punish the people that they believe should be killed. And we never call those deaths absolute. ... But in abortion, we allow no discussion whatsoever of possible times when it would not be a matter.”

Sr. Chittister has been casting the moral condemnation of abortion as discrimation against women, in exactly the terms described above, for 40 years. She has been corrected many times on this. I have done it myself, directly, both in privarte correspondance and in person.

Knowing that she has repeatedly had the elemntary moral distinctions explained to her in a manner than any person of adequate intelligence could understand, I don't know how to explain her continued rebarbative errors.

I sincerely wish her well. We must pray for her.But we must not give her a platform, or honors, or an increased capacity to mislead and to scandalize.

Sincerely,

[signed]

13 posted on 02/14/2010 8:43:37 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("As it is written, the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." Romans 2:24)
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To: NYer

Chittister is absolutely horrible. How can they even CONSIDER her to do this???


14 posted on 02/14/2010 11:04:13 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Very good.

God Bless you.

15 posted on 02/14/2010 5:24:44 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: NYer

Have you noticed that all these dissident nuns now have GRAY HAIR? They don’t have any new postulants, because young women don’t want to join their Religious Orders, since they have obviously lost their faith.


16 posted on 02/14/2010 8:19:19 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Salvation; NYer
Seems like we should contact her Bishop about ex-communicating her.

It may not work, but we could give it a try.

17 posted on 02/15/2010 12:14:02 PM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher
That would be

Most Reverend Joseph V. Adamec
Diocese of Erie, PA
Fax 814-695-8894

I think he's a fairly new bishop (new appointment, replacing Bishop Trautman.) So he might actually be open to the idea.

18 posted on 02/15/2010 4:01:33 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Asked a clerk, Where's the self-help section? She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
My research is showing Bishop Trautman as the Bishop of Erie and Bishop Adamec as the Bishop of Altoona-Johnstown.

Bishop Trautman is younger than Bishop Adamec, so I don't think that Bishop Trautman has resigned (he is under the age of 75).

On the other hand, Bishop Adamec will turn 75 on August 13, 2010.

We need to be sure before contacting the diocese...

19 posted on 02/15/2010 4:52:31 PM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher
Sure enough, you're right. Oh, dear. I'm glad you checked that out. I just copied that off of a list, but I guess the list was wrong.

(I just double-checked it, and I see the error was mine alone. It was a Fax list ordered by Area Code, and I assumed 814 was only for Erie. Now I see Altoona has an 814 Area Code, too.)

Here's the Diocese of Erie Fax, and yes, as far as I know that's Bishop Trautman:

(814) 824-1124

20 posted on 02/15/2010 5:06:20 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Oops!)
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