Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Attorney asked by judge to remove Ash Wednesday observance
Iowa Independent ^ | 02/19/10 | Lynda Waddington

Posted on 02/20/2010 6:28:41 AM PST by Free Vulcan

A Marshall County Attorney in the midst of prosecuting an attempted murder case was asked by the court Wednesday to remove a smudge of ash from his forehead, a Catholic custom done in conjunction with the beginning of Lent.

Conservative writer Ken Black of the Marshalltown Times-Republican reports that Paul Crawford, an assistant county attorney, returned to the courtroom following a lunch break with the ash on his forehead. Catholics place the mark, which is often done in the shape of a cross, on their foreheads as a sign of repentance. The ash itself is often a by-product of the burning of palm crosses from the previous year, mixed lightly with holy water and sacred oils. Many recipients of the mark will wear it until it naturally wears off.

Prior to the jury returning, an attorney for the defense objected to the marking, and indicated that it could influence the jury in the case.

Judge Michael Moon agreed and requested the Crawford remove the smudge before the case proceeded. The attorney did so and the case moved forward without further discussion or incident.


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: ashwednesday; christians; church; cross; iowa; law; ruling; state
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-140 next last
To: 1rudeboy

And do you really think that is ever going to happen? I don’t. Likewise, no judge is ever going to ask a Jew to remove his yarmulke, or a Hindu the bindi on her forehead. Christians are the only people in this country who cannot freely exercise their religion and signal their religious beliefs.


21 posted on 02/20/2010 6:48:24 AM PST by La Lydia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy

The ashes on the prosecutor’s forehead are not evidence.


22 posted on 02/20/2010 6:48:24 AM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (1-20-09--The Beginning of an Error..............1-20-13--Change we can look forward to)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy

How are ashes on the forehead evidence?


23 posted on 02/20/2010 6:48:57 AM PST by Francis McClobber
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: NoKoolAidforMe
The ashes on the prosecutor’s forehead are not evidence.

"Are you suggesting, counselor, that the mark on Mr. Prosecutor's forehead is not a fact?"
[Judge stares balefully]

24 posted on 02/20/2010 6:51:14 AM PST by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: NoKoolAidforMe

The attorney could have declined and asked for a continuance. Too bad he wiped them off his forehead.


25 posted on 02/20/2010 6:52:16 AM PST by Francis McClobber
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: arturo
Matthew 6:1 - “Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.”

Please--I realize that many people misunderstand this practice but receiving the mark of the cross in ashes is NOT a sign of outward piety. Rather, it is a reminder of our mortality. Sin entered the world through one man and death through sin--each of us is DYING. But the mark we receive is in the form of the Cross--the LIFE-GIVING Cross.

Further, the practice is not unique to our Catholic brothers and sisters. As a Lutheran pastor, I can testify to the power of the words "Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return." And even now I anticipate with joy the words of the Easter Vigil: "May the light of Christ, rising in glory, dispel the darkness of our hearts and minds."

26 posted on 02/20/2010 6:53:48 AM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

Matthew 16-18 - "Whenever you fast, do not put on a gloomy face as the hypocrites do, for they neglect their appearance so that they will be noticed by men when they are fasting. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But you, when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face so that your fasting will not be noticed by men, but by your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you."

27 posted on 02/20/2010 6:55:26 AM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

Can we expect objections to burkas, hijabs and scarves?


28 posted on 02/20/2010 6:55:45 AM PST by relictele
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy
Rule 403. Exclusion of Relevant Evidence on Grounds of Prejudice

(1)Ashes on the forehead of the prosecutor are not "evidence" by any stretch of the imagination.

Was the prosecutor asking the court to enter his own forehead into the record as "Exhibit A"?

(2) Federal rules of evidence are not applicable in state courts, even if this were a matter of evidence which - it should be blindingly obvious - it is not.

29 posted on 02/20/2010 6:56:57 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy

“Are you suggesting, counselor, that the mark on Mr. Prosecutor’s forehead is not a fact?”

In order for the defense attorney to prove prejudice, he would have to provide evidence that the ashes are prejudicial. Merely pointing out the fact that the attorney has ashes on his forehead is not evidence.


30 posted on 02/20/2010 6:57:38 AM PST by Francis McClobber
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: relictele

Sure. And objections to bare feet, cigarettes, and Bozo the Clown outfits.


31 posted on 02/20/2010 6:57:57 AM PST by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: arturo

That should be Matthew 6:16-18.


32 posted on 02/20/2010 6:58:32 AM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

I am not a Roman Catholic.

I do not believe the RC Church represents true Christianity.

That said, I find it disgusting that people are objecting to the wearing of ashes, by this lawyer, by Joe Bidet or anyone else.

That is a traditional observance in their faith and should be respected as such.


33 posted on 02/20/2010 6:58:46 AM PST by slorunner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tiki

I agree. The judge had no authority to ask him to remove it. Very dangerous precedence. The FF would not be happy. (Founding Fathers).


34 posted on 02/20/2010 7:00:01 AM PST by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: tiki

I think the judge has the right and obligation to consider whether it would be perceived as prejudicial. His responsibility is to the judicial proceedings. The attorney did the correct thing in his response to the judge’s request. I suppose if the attorney had refused, the judge could have postponed the proceedings, or cited him for contempt. It was a non-issue and this is really a non-story.

My fiancee (non-Catholic) kept hinting at me to wipe my forehead on Wednesday evening, (”Isn’t it bad for your skin?” “It looks like dirt!”). He was not raised in the Catholic tradition and apparently doesn’t see that many people with the ashes. I found that surprising coming from that tradition, and previously living in a part of the country with many more Catholics,and particularly since I worked for 27 years in Catholic higher education and most of my former co-workers would have ashes too.

I simply explained that one usually lets them wear off naturally. He was perplexed at why I would do that, but didn’t say anything else.


35 posted on 02/20/2010 7:00:43 AM PST by YankeeGirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: NoKoolAidforMe
*** How many times have we heard cases where a judge requested a jew to remove his yarmulke in the courtroom because the opposing attorney objected? ***

Uh .. like ... never.

(And I'll leave it at that.)

36 posted on 02/20/2010 7:01:18 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: harpu

If Crawford was a Catholic without conviction, he would not have gotten the ashes in the first place. However, it is a losing battle for an attorney to refuse to obey a judge’s order in court. Crawford could have ended up in contempt of court. I think that it was wrong for the judge to tell him to remove the ashes and perhaps the Catholics of Marshall County should vote against the judge the next time he runs for office since he is clearly prejudiced against Catholics.


37 posted on 02/20/2010 7:01:24 AM PST by steadfastconservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy

Citing Rule 403 is not at all germane to the issue at hand. The ashes on the forehead were not introduced as evidence in a trial. Your cite is clearly off-point.


38 posted on 02/20/2010 7:01:27 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Francis McClobber
Here's the way things work in the real world. Attorney objects, judge considers, and sustains or overrules. The issue is preserved for appeal if the objecting attorney doesn't get the outcome he wishes.

Let me try to clear up your confusion about "evidence." Ashes on one's forehead are evidence that one attended Ash Wednesday mass during one's lunch break. The issue is whether evidence that one attended Ash Wednesday mass during one's lunch break is admissible to a jury. It is not under Rule 403.

39 posted on 02/20/2010 7:04:14 AM PST by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy

No, it may,repeat may, have been predjudicial, and no evidence was offered that it was. But the judges ruling absolutely denied the First Amendment right of Freedon of Religion to the attorney.


40 posted on 02/20/2010 7:04:44 AM PST by xkaydet65
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-140 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson