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1 posted on 03/09/2010 12:13:22 PM PST by the invisib1e hand
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To: Salvation; NYer; wagglebee

fyi.


2 posted on 03/09/2010 12:14:01 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (let the rich eat the rich.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

From what I hear, a lot of married couples do as well.


3 posted on 03/09/2010 12:14:50 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I have read that the priests were not allowed to have sex before they said mass because their hands would touch “christ”


5 posted on 03/09/2010 12:24:12 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: the invisib1e hand

>> Married or single priests from the early stages of Christianity practiced celibacy, according to a Vatican archaeologist.

That’s some pretty impressive archaeology.

SnakeDoc


6 posted on 03/09/2010 12:33:47 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (The night is darkest just before the dawn, but [...] the dawn is coming. -- Harvey Dent)
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To: the invisib1e hand
The Bible teaches differently:

Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband.
The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.


- I Corinthians 7:3-5
7 posted on 03/09/2010 12:34:09 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: the invisib1e hand

That’s like taking a shower with a raincoat on.


11 posted on 03/09/2010 12:38:26 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Was not Peter the key holder married???? Spiritually speaking the Heavenly Father was ‘married’ way back in Jeremiah 3:8 “And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of D I V O R C E; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared NOT, but went and played the harlot also....

Marriage has NEVER been forbidden and DIVORCE is NOT the unforgivable sin.

12 posted on 03/09/2010 12:38:39 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: the invisib1e hand

I’m living proof that you can be both married and celibate. /ha


16 posted on 03/09/2010 12:48:13 PM PST by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: the invisib1e hand

From:The Life of Fr. De Smet, Apostle of the Rockies:

“With his soul inundated with joy, Father De Smet thanked God for having chosen him to be the instrument of His designs. “I believe firmly in the hundredfold promised by Our Saviour. What we have given up in this world is as nothing compared to what we have found and experienced in the wilderness.

How is the phenomenal success of these missions to be explained? Many of the Indians possessed admirable natural virtues; they but needed to know Christianity to embrace it. Even the most degraded had preserved a high ideal of the greatness of the power of God. Blasphemy was unknown among them: not presuming to address the “Great Spirit,” they entreated their manitous to intercede for them. Superstition if you will, but beneath it was a religious sentiment which the missionary had only to enlighten and direct. None held back through false pride or prejudice. Even the Sioux, the proudest of the Western tribes, compared themselves to children bereft of a father’s guiding hand, and to the ignorant animals of the prairie, and with touching humility begged the missionary to “take pity on them.”

Such elevated, upright souls could, moreover, appreciate the chastity of the Catholic priesthood. With rare discernment, the Indian understood that, belonging as he does to all men, a priest cannot give himself to one person, and not for an instant did they hesitate to choose the Black Robe, who had consecrated his life to them, rather than the minister in lay dress, installed in a comfortable home with wife and children, devoted to the interests of his family, giving only the time that remained to distributing Bibles” .


If you want married priests become a Protestant.


21 posted on 03/09/2010 12:58:56 PM PST by Leoni
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To: the invisib1e hand

The title is misleading. The author means “practiced continence” or “abstinence.”

Celibacy means unmarried.
Continence means abstinence from marital relations, either outside of marriage or within marriage.


27 posted on 03/09/2010 1:04:52 PM PST by Houghton M.
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To: the invisib1e hand

Let’s see the tapes.


44 posted on 03/09/2010 1:33:49 PM PST by Palladin (Dear Obama: "Smoke, smoke, smoke that cigarette!")
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To: the invisib1e hand

To this day in the East (we have married priests), not only the priest, but any who are to commune of the Holy Mysteries must abstain from carnal relations from the hour of Vespers the night before the Liturgy.

There is an amusing story from Old Russia about a seminarian who when told this discipline by the learned archbishop who was teaching a course on priestly praxis, stammered, “But. . .Fr. Nicholai back home. . .he served Liturgy every morning. . .you mean he and his wife never. . .” The archbishop looked over his glasses and the young man and replied, “And for what purpose did the good Lord make the afternoon?”

I believe in the West, the corresponding discipline was stricter, and a priest was to abstain from carnal relations for the entire day before serving the Mass. Daily Mass then implied a celibate priesthood.


57 posted on 03/09/2010 1:47:25 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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“Married Priests Practiced Celibacy”

I can’t imagine that. Being married to someone, having sex and then BAM, they decide that neither of us are having sex....ever again. If you believe in a fidelity, you find yourelf in quite a pickle.

As comedian Ron White said, “You can’t NOT have sex with me, I’ll cheat. I know ‘cause I’ve seen me do it.” Now of course their are exceptions health reasons, etc.....but just because....? That’s a toughy.


63 posted on 03/09/2010 1:55:16 PM PST by Grunthor (Everyone hates the U.S. at least until they need liberated.)
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110 posted on 03/09/2010 5:14:05 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: the invisib1e hand
Married Priests Practiced Celibacy Chastity.

To be celibate is to be unmarried. To be chaste is to forego sex.

139 posted on 03/10/2010 3:36:50 AM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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Just can't be a wholehearted priest and a wholehearted husband of one wife. Just cannot sit in a confessional as Christ and have an active carnal relationship with a spouse -- it's like covering yourself with gasoline and playing with matches.

The Church is always right. Infallible, as a matter of fact, in matters of faith and morals.

172 posted on 03/10/2010 4:43:42 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (let the rich eat the rich.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Married or single priests from the early stages of Christianity practiced celibacy, according to a Vatican archaeologist.

Probably only engaged in oral acts since Bill Clinton explained that "oral sex" really isn't sex.

181 posted on 03/11/2010 8:16:03 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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