Posted on 03/12/2010 6:50:06 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
If you have studied the Scripture then I truly do not know how you have missed it.. The old testament is full of the promises for Israel... they are for the earthly blessing Romans 9-11... the church is for spiritual blessing Eph. 1:1-10.
Thank you a God bless you! Be redeeming the days for God’s glory! All of god’s highest and best for you!
DJP I.F.
Until then...
I.F.
And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day” (John 6:39).
I believe the word is to abandon... Many people profess Christ but that does not me they are saved.. Read what Matt 7:21-23 states..
Romans 8:33-39
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
We are to work out our OWN salvation be cause we possess it not to inherit it.
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. John 10:28,29
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. eph 4:30
etc... your great at twisting scripture my friend.. Let John 3:16-17,Romans 5:1,7:24-25 10-2-4, Gal 2:20 settle it for you.. I could bang out countless others...
it must be scary to be trusting in you for salvation... It is true though that many proclaim to be saved but in works deny him... those are usually NOT saved but lead many astray.. the very one that you are condemning is your self... Thanks for the challenge!!! It always strengthens my Faith in the finished work of Christ for me! Only a sinner saved (delivered) by Grace!
The church is no where found in revelation from 6-19 also all the O.T. passages refer to Israel not the Church..Where did Christ's body go?.... They were taken out before this 7 year tribulation period..
It is not hard to see if you want to.. what the problem is is that it is hard to unlearn what has been ingrained in us... that there is the problem...
Think it through my friend...
God Bless!
I notice you didn’t tell us their names.
Good for you — same here — no telly at our house. The internet is better in the sense that you can see different viewpoints and, more importantly, you’re not a passive recipient of information that you are in front of the telly
Not at all my friend... It was true that the Septuagint was around but the Jews - Paul, John Peter etc... read the Hebrew... it was to them an abomination to read the O.T. scriptures in a foreign tongue... Jesus went into the synagogues and read from the scrolls of Isaiah etc...What was common practice etc..
One thing that always blew me away after I got saved was how the Catholic church make Paul, Peter John and Jesus all Italian looking when they were all staunched Jews who had a very hard time dealing with gentiles who got saved and with letting go of the Law and it’s practices etc…Acts, Galatians etc..
Nice try my friend... The Catholic church really didn’t come in to play until around 300 AD or so.. Stop trying to take all the credit.. and indulging
What is most funny is that the Catholic Church for centuries denied the Scriptures to it’s people and murdered countless individuals who had the position of them especially in their own language… they kept them ignorant of scriptures which made them ignorant of Christ.
No offence… just getting our backs
I.F.
You’re absolutely right; we are not a passive receipient on the internet...(never looked at it that way). I can control what comes in my home. Television will blindside people even if on the animal planet by some of the raunchy material on commercials. etc.
Yeah, excellent way to put it.
“my friend because you miss it or do not see it or understand it does not mean that we are in the wrong.” — it’s just that it’s NOT there. And it was never raised until the 1800s in any serious way. The idea of the rapture is the new idea in the 1800s of a Scottish minister with no history or scripture behind it
the historical chronology is pointed out that demonstrates its recent, non-Biblical origin,What's also interesting is that many of them have raised the matter to the level of an article of faith (in the same way that many have assumed the act of speaking in what they call tongues is proof of their being in-filled with the Holy Spirit) and, as a corollary, as a shibboleth to determine who is not of the "true" way. These are not signs of faith but are all marks of a powerful delusion.
Jesus's own words on his return that preclude such a notion are referenced,
it is demonstrated that pre-trib rapture proponents like Grant Jeffrey will misrepresent scholars to make them say something exactly opposite of what they actually said in order to support their doctrine,
it is pointed out that the references they use cannot possibly support the interpretation because they contradict other clear scriptural references,
after being shown all these things, they say things like, "Well, the vast number of evangelical scholars believe it" (a fallacy) or "It was not known in earlier times because it was sealed" (paraphrase of Scofield).
The Ignorant Fisherman wrote:
“If you have studied the Scripture then I truly do not know how you have missed it.. The old testament is full of the promises for Israel... they are for the earthly blessing Romans 9-11... the church is for spiritual blessing Eph. 1:1-10.”
Maybe I am a little obtuse, but I honestly don’t know what you are trying to say here. Perhaps you could try to say what you meant a little more clearly.
Well I’ve had it with TV and with the manipulation of the ‘masses’. And yes the internet, for the reasons you cited, is far more stimulating and educational.
TV is not controllable imho though because, we get blindsided, even during the best of programs. Scenario I gave earlier is what I meant by not being able to control it; something insidious always shows up even if only on a commercial.
I’m actually surprised that I don’t miss it more but I’m a radio junkie now (mostly Christian stations and of course Rush, Levin etc) and I’m an internet junkie as well. :)
Plus, I’ve noticed it gives me and the wife more time to read, talk, go out, etc.
Well We can agree to Praise Him for what He has done....
Amen and Amen
I’m 63 and I doubt I will finish this race on my own and I am certain that my Children and Grandchildren won’t.
If you and I live long enough we’ll get to see who gets to say “I told you so” by witnessing first hand how this all rolls out.
:-)
Sounds wonderful. That is a big advantage isn’t it? *sigh* TV can be a huge interruption.
Knowing Christ as Savior is the most important thing.. that is for sure!
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