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The Great Heresies
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Posted on 03/21/2010 3:03:29 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Elsie

One may wonder the extent of the writings that Jesus left us. Indeed, there is only one passage which says that Jesus wrote at all. The Gospels, Acts, and indeed the whole NT outline the creation and the further actions of the Church that He Created and the Holy Spirit commissioned at Pentecost, yet, He left us no writings. Why is this?


81 posted on 03/23/2010 5:33:05 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: boatbums
But I don't think it's correct for one group to co-opt the designation and then condemn all other who don't call themselves by the same label.

On the face of it, it would seem a convincing argument. Yet, the one group did not co-opt it. It IS it. The splinter groups have splintered throughout Church history. The quitters (as it were - of the Church of Christ) do not get to identify themselves as if they are in full communion with the Church. There is one Faith. If you separate yourself from the Faith, then you separate yourself from the Church. Jesus Created His Church; it is individual men that have walked away from it.

82 posted on 03/23/2010 5:37:27 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: boatbums

83 posted on 03/23/2010 5:39:50 PM PDT by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: xone
The Namesake wishes us to practice it amongst fellow believers.

The "Namesake"?

84 posted on 03/23/2010 5:46:39 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Poe White Trash

In the secular German codes known as the Sachsenspiegel (about 1225) and the Schwabenspiegel (about 1275), heresy was punishable with the stake. Take it up with the secular authorities. The Church merely found Hus guilty of heresy (which he was) and handed him over to them, after giving him more than a year to abandon his heresies.

Are his heresies from Christianity that attractive to you that you would post such as this?


85 posted on 03/23/2010 5:54:33 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
The "Namesake"?

Christ?

86 posted on 03/23/2010 5:55:06 PM PDT by xone
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To: xone
As long as you don't hold to the idea of going it by yourself as the only human involved. The Namesake wishes us to practice it amongst fellow believers.

NO...I do not mean everyone gets their own idea of the faith. I believe where the Bible is clear on major doctrine - and it is very clear - there should be unity. We are told to not forsake the assembly of ourselves together. The Lord wants there to be unity, comfort, exhortation, sharing, teaching and fellowship among believers.

Where scripture does not say one way or the other - minor issues - there should be liberty. The Bible is our guide for truth. There should be love in all things!

87 posted on 03/23/2010 6:00:11 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: xone
The "Namesake"?

Christ?

I'm unaware of this designation for Christ. Google was not immediately helpful except to inform me about a Bollywood movie. Do you have any more information?

88 posted on 03/23/2010 6:04:04 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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89 posted on 03/23/2010 6:04:29 PM PDT by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: irishtenor

I’ll ask you the same question: How do you reconcile your beliefs with free will?


90 posted on 03/23/2010 6:07:32 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: xone
Certified by God Himself.

How did God certify the Bible?

91 posted on 03/23/2010 6:08:32 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: NYer
God gave you the gift of free choice. You may choose to remain in His Church or leave it.

Sorry, but the Roman Catholic Church does not own the designation of "His Church". His church is the body of believers in Jesus Christ as savior and head. This is the ecclesia, a called-out assembly, a church.

Here is what I believe, there are many Roman Catholics that are Christians. There are many "Protestants" that are not Christians. Like I said, labels don't mean much.

92 posted on 03/23/2010 6:10:12 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
Where scripture does not say one way or the other - minor issues - there should be liberty.

There is. Some denoms wish to control their members.

93 posted on 03/23/2010 6:13:14 PM PDT by xone
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To: MarkBsnr
I'm unaware of this designation for Christ.

If you read the post the reference was to Christianity's Namesake, hence the capitalization as well.

94 posted on 03/23/2010 6:15:05 PM PDT by xone
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To: Poe White Trash

Taking one name at random (Anneken Hendriks), I find that she was captured and burned by the secular authorities with no instigation by the Church. The Anabaptists were substantial losers in the Reformation, weren’t they? The Lutherans hated them and the Calvinists couldn’t stand them either. Too bad that Zwingli was so crazy that he first broke with them and then got himself killed off playing soldier so that they had no protectors.

Protestants killing each other does not on the face of it come to the Catholic door. Unless you blame the Church for the entire Reformation, in which case you would have a point.


95 posted on 03/23/2010 6:15:59 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: D-fendr

It is here is it not? It has remained. It continues to bear fruit. It retains its power. Looks certified and authentic to me, are you still in doubt?


96 posted on 03/23/2010 6:17:52 PM PDT by xone
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To: xone
If you read the post the reference was to Christianity's Namesake, hence the capitalization as well.

Interesting. I've never seen this before. Is this designation common?

97 posted on 03/23/2010 6:18:48 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

From the hymn:
...And give honor to Christ and His name that we bear.


98 posted on 03/23/2010 6:20:17 PM PDT by xone
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To: D-fendr; boatbum

I will give you a simplified version:
Before man is redeemed (saved, born again, put your own version here...) he has two choices. Those are: to sin at any given point, or to not sin at that same point. In other words, a man may punch another in the nose (sin) or decide to NOT punch the man in the nose (not sin).

The redeemed man has three choices at any given point: he can sin, not sin, or glorify God. Using the same example above, the man can choose to punch the other in the nose, Not punch the other in the nose, or turn the other cheek and tell him about Jesus.

Only a redeemed man CAN glorify God, therefore only a redeemed man can CHOOSE to glorify God.

No man, of his own free volition is able to choose God. It is only when the man has been chosen BY God, and the justification of Jesus comes upon him, can he choose to glorify God.

In conclusion: Man has the free will to sin or not sin, but he does NOT have the will to turn to God. God calls, we answer.

Clear enough?

And yes, I can back ALL of it up with scripture... but I am at work, and I think my boss would frown on me taking out my Bible.


99 posted on 03/23/2010 6:21:16 PM PDT by irishtenor (Beer. God's way of making sure the Irish don't take over the world.)
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To: xone
There is. Some denoms wish to control their members.

At first glance, I thought you said, "Some demons wish...". Lysdexia, I guess. LOL. You are correct that some denominations do try to control their members. A Christian should never forsake the study of scripture and the illumination of the Holy Spirit to what is being studied. We should always be sensitive to the leading of God through his word. Some people are lazy and succumb to what is comfortable and never judge their leaders' preaching with God's word. It is their loss.

100 posted on 03/23/2010 6:24:12 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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