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1 posted on 03/25/2010 8:19:34 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

You do know that Kung was disciplined by CDF and that he is a notorius dissenter, don’t you? So why should I believe a single word he has to say on this issue?


2 posted on 03/25/2010 8:21:00 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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This source is also pro-abortion - from their “woman’s” section:

QUEZON CITY, Philippines — The church’s catechism opposing the Reproductive Health Bill, which is now before Congress, has silenced election candidates on women’s rights, a leading advocate of the proposed law says.

Politicians seem to have “all meekly acquiesced to the dictates” of the Episcopal Commission on Family and Life, which issued the “Catechism on Family and Life” for the 2010 elections, former Health Secretary Alberto Romualdez said. National, provincial and local elections will be held nationwide May 10.


3 posted on 03/25/2010 8:22:38 AM PDT by DManA
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Oh and PS. For pity’s sake nothing, nothing in canon law requiring confidentiality in proceedings forbade any reporting of alleged crimes to civil authorities.

And by the way criminal investigations are also handled confidentially.

In canon law as well as civil law there is the presumption of innocence. So the accused does have the right to be treated as such. Which means not exposing a person who my not be guilty to public condemnation.

An investigation is not a trial. It is not a tribunal. It is not a foregone conclusion. It is just that, an investigation.

A trial and investigation are conducted under different rules. I wish people would learn the difference.

Ever heard of a “secret” grand jury investigation?


4 posted on 03/25/2010 8:26:46 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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The National Catholic Reporter? Not Catholic. It is however, a left-wing front group used to divide Catholics.


5 posted on 03/25/2010 8:27:34 AM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! A true American is an armed American.)
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FYI, the National Catholic Reporter is an anti-Catholic dissent rag. They are also huge homo enablers. Their credibility on this issue is less than ZERO.


6 posted on 03/25/2010 8:27:55 AM PDT by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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“Is it not time for Pope Benedict XVI himself to acknowledge his share of responsibility, instead of whining about a campaign against his person?”

I’m no Catholic,, but it couldn’t be *any more obvious* that the leftards started hunting him the very minute he was picked for pope. They started carefully sifting through his life, for anything bad that happened somewhere he lived. They did it because they hate what he stands for,,, so it appears the pop was correct in his assessment.


7 posted on 03/25/2010 8:28:49 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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Liberal Catholics HATE the discipline of celibacy. I’m not sure you could find a Catholic pundit who is pro-life, anti-birth control, anti-homosexualist agenda, anti-priestesses, and against “gay marriage” who is also against celibacy. You sure can find Catholic pundits who are for all those liberal things and they invariably hate celibacy.

Freegards


8 posted on 03/25/2010 8:36:15 AM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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Kung loves to criticize the papacy. What do you know about him? LOL!


9 posted on 03/25/2010 8:37:58 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Hans Kung and the National "catholic" Reporter.

Stopped reading right there. The tired liberal and totally debunked rhetoric regarding "celibacy" as a bad thing is exposed (pun intended) again. If the priests in question had remained true to the "precious gift" of holy celibacy there would not have been a scandal. The homosexuals "OF this world" allowed into the priesthood are at fault, not holy celibacy.

Question: can the Bishop where National catholic Reporter is headquartered force them to cease and desist misusing "Catholic" in their name?

10 posted on 03/25/2010 8:40:17 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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Kung's last "hurrah".

Sad.

11 posted on 03/25/2010 8:40:31 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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Try this for starters:

Theology Incompatible with the Catholic Faith
Hans K¸ng Former theologian condemned by the Vatican.

12 posted on 03/25/2010 8:41:29 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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CP, Do you wish to associate yourself with Dr. Kung and his opinions? Do you have any commentary on it? Or is this just another left-wing rip and run attack on the Pontiff?


13 posted on 03/25/2010 8:56:07 AM PDT by Faraday
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I dislike Kung, but he is right regarding the origins of the celibacy rule. It was a comparatively late development and has been unevenly enforced. Within the Catholic communion for instance, for the last few hundred years Maronites have been permitted married clergy with a gentlements agreement they cannot progress higher in the church once married.

I don’t have an issue with married clergy theologically, but I suspect we’d see some awful instances of priests unable to keep distance between them and their flocks or finding it even harder to do so.

As to whether it would magically fix the pedophile scandal - I doubt it. The anglicans have had married clergy yet there’s been plenty of dubious instances within their ranks and within other bodies. As ever, most of this just comes from sick twisted perverts driven by lust or power, taking shelter within a respected institution and using it as cover.


15 posted on 03/25/2010 9:12:16 AM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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The rule of celibacy is not a truth of faith, but a church law going back to the 11th Century;

Nope.

Letters from Gregory the Great to Augustine of Canterbury require celibacy of clergy in major AND MINOR orders. Maybe the rule wasn't made 'law' in the 1000's but it was required way earlier than that.

22 posted on 03/25/2010 9:37:38 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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It’s hilarious, and telling, that anti-Catholics like liberal rags like the National Catholic Reporter.


24 posted on 03/25/2010 9:42:06 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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In his eight years as a professor of theology in Regensburg, in close contact with his brother Georg, the capellmeister of the Regensburger Domspatzen, Ratzinger can hardly have been ignorant about what went on in the choir and its boarding--school. This was much more than an occasional slap in the face, there are charges of serious physical violence and even sexual abuse.

In his five years as Archbishop of Munich, repeated cases of sexual abuse at least by one priest transferred to his Archdiocese have come to light. His loyal Vicar General, my classmate Gerhard Gruber, has taken full responsibility for the handling of this case, but that is hardly an excuse for the Archbishop, who is ultimately responsible for the administration of his diocese.

No excuse.

29 posted on 03/25/2010 10:28:53 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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Why are we putting anything at all from NCR without an appropriate barf alert? These people have nothing useful and seldom anything truthful to say.


36 posted on 03/25/2010 10:47:49 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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LOLOLOLOL

Hans Kung? HANS KUNG?

LOLOLOLOL


41 posted on 03/25/2010 10:11:29 PM PDT by Lorica
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WOW, I llove experts who have no idea of what they are talking about


42 posted on 03/25/2010 10:12:21 PM PDT by terycarl (4)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases


44 posted on 03/25/2010 10:29:09 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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