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Vatican says media in "ignoble attempt" to smear pope
Reuters ^ | March 25, 2010 | Philip Pullella Philip Pullella

Posted on 03/25/2010 1:29:03 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

Heck the media has nothing on a few bigots who post on the Religion Forum.


21 posted on 03/25/2010 2:42:33 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I could not agree more.


22 posted on 03/25/2010 2:42:44 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Yes, just as it has been throughout the centuries. After all, it was promised. :)


23 posted on 03/25/2010 2:44:01 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Hi, FRiend. :)


24 posted on 03/25/2010 2:44:29 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Helloz


25 posted on 03/25/2010 2:51:30 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: ArrogantBustard

“..they were in the hot seat, I was not”

I think there is some truth to this.

I remember a time when I was very disgruntled with things that the city council where I live either did or did not do. Then one day I found myself appointed to serve as one of two citizen advisory people to the council. I sat in on all the meetings for almost 2 years and was allowed to contribute to the discussions (just couldn’t vote).

It was the first time that I was able to have a first-hand experience of some of the knots and tangles and hurdles that governing a city can present. A lot of what we were able to consider depended a great deal on available good information, sound facts and reliable statistics.

I can only imagine what it is like to oversee the Church, even at the level of subsidiary.

I remember Archbishop Fulton Sheen telling about one of the times he met with Pope Paul VI. The Pope told Bishop Sheen that every night when he went to bed he put his head on a crown of thorns.


26 posted on 03/25/2010 2:52:31 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Running On Empty

I have always found “being in charge” to be a very humbling, and often frightening, experience.


27 posted on 03/25/2010 2:58:52 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Well said.

I believe satan has used and is using all of the -ism tools in his toolbox. Modernism, humanism, marxism, etc. etc. Cultural marxism’s m.o. is to rot all things of good and beauty from within, finding that more effective than the iron fist of armed revolution. Those things of good and beauty include the Church, the priesthood, the family, art, music, literature, language, church architecture, and so on.


28 posted on 03/25/2010 3:05:08 PM PDT by Lorica
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The media are Death Eaters. They don’t give a flying FReep about victims of sexual abuse: they think Intergenerational Same-Sex Intimacy is a natural right, and want people who say it’s wrong to be jailed. Their goal, which seems reasonable only to stupid people, is for the Church to say, “You’re right - adult-child sodomy is okay. What were we thinking all these years?”

Is it insane? Maybe. Maybe it’s simply demonic.


29 posted on 03/25/2010 3:08:58 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Never apologize - it's a sign of weakness.)
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You got that right!


30 posted on 03/25/2010 3:14:14 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Note that most of the priests and nuns, and ALL of the bishops who implemented the spurious "Spirit of Vatican II" had been trained and ordained (or consecrated) prior to Vatican II. Vatican II did not cause the destruction of so much of Catholic life, rather it was the excuse used by those who had wanted for a long time wreak destruction but didn't have the opportunity.

AB is right. Here in the Albany Diocese, one of the most progressive in the US, there are many sex abuse suits that had to be dropped because the priests (all ordained pre VCII) are now deceased.

This problem is not unique to the Catholic Church. There is plenty of blame to pass around. Unfortunately, as the only Church with a central authority figure, we are an easy target. Compound that with the strict and unshakable morals taught by the Church, and you have a willing audience of shooters. We need to pray for our Holy Father ... daily!

31 posted on 03/25/2010 3:23:20 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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AB knows his stuff! I said a prayer for Pope benedict today, and plan to make that at least a daily commitment.


32 posted on 03/25/2010 3:29:07 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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It’s the same line of reasoning, from the same filthy source, that’s used to attack the Boy Scouts: “The BSA has failed to prevent, completely, homosexual adults’ molesting boys. Therefore, they should stop trying and just turn the fags loose on the teens.

It’s stupid, it’s evil, and it’s absolutely infuriating. The people making these attacks *like* the behavior they’re using as a smokescreen. The hate the institution that stand in the way of universal acceptance of perversion.


33 posted on 03/25/2010 3:29:39 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Never apologize - it's a sign of weakness.)
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Oops. Pope Benedict.
34 posted on 03/25/2010 3:30:05 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Tax-chick

I absolutely agree.


35 posted on 03/25/2010 3:37:04 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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“Unfortunately, as the only Church with a central authority figure ... “

Huh?


36 posted on 03/25/2010 3:42:56 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marshmallow

Nope, not a word from “author” Rembert G. Weakland.


37 posted on 03/25/2010 3:43:05 PM PDT by onyx (Facts don't matter. Proof not required. Anything goes! Racial slurs, death threats.....)
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“Compound that with the strict and unshakable morals taught by the Church ... “

Huge falsity though when you have priests who don’t practice what they teach. Causes one to lose faith.


38 posted on 03/25/2010 3:44:39 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: sabe@q.com

Who is the head of the Baptist church?

The Anglican Not-Exactly-Communion-Anymore has the Archbishop of Canterbury, of course, but since he’s pro-sodomy, it’s irrelevant. Nobody attacks him over it ... but they go after the Bishops in Africa who are Christian.


39 posted on 03/25/2010 3:46:16 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Never apologize - it's a sign of weakness.)
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Causes one to lose faith.

Only if one's faith is in men rather than in God.

40 posted on 03/25/2010 3:46:58 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Never apologize - it's a sign of weakness.)
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