Posted on 03/27/2010 3:29:23 AM PDT by Gamecock
What must it feel like to have lost 50 years of your life? For that is what 61-year old Arthur Budzinski has endured.
Five long decades of personal pain.
And he has to rely on others to speak of his anguish.
It is made worse by the fact that no-one has been held to account for the sexual abuse he says he suffered as a child while at the Roman Catholic St John's School for the Deaf in St Francis, Wisconsin.
Arthur and around 200 other boys are said to have been sexually abused at the school by Father Lawrence Murphy, a Catholic priest.
He says he and others told members of the clergy back then that they were being watched, touched and exploited by Fr Murphy.
No-one listened.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...
As I said, Roman Catholic apologists habitually misdirect.
They ARE the left.
Read Razinger's global authority encyclical in full. It is astounding. Under cover of platitudes, it calls for a world enslaved to the state. It is an amazing work. If anyone wants to know who the enemy is they need to read that book. It's on Amazon for a few dollars.
Not true.
(Lots of untrue garbage on this thread, but this one stands out in particular.)
Exactly. So you understand my fear that these scandals will lead us further down that slope. What's troubling is that you would think that this would energize Romanists to reform their Church but instead we read all kinds of deluded platitudes on how these priest scandals are somehow an attack on the Roman Church by those outside the Church, written with an ignoble ignorance to the actual problem.
You wrote:
“I’ve read both books. Have you?”
No, but I see no reason to doubt the author on his own admission of his own mistake. I also have no reason to believe you’ve read either book. Are you also going to claim you read the original Ratzinger biography? Strange how you apparently didn’t know the story of how the second one came about.
“They are BOTH slavish compliments to the Vatican.”
He said he wanted to be OBJECTIVE. If you find objectivity slavishly complimentary to the Vatican, then that’s your problem.
“As I said, Roman Catholic apologists habitually misdirect.”
And you’re STILL wrong and the facts stand opposed to you. You’re probably used to that by now.
Okay [sigh], gotta do it again.
John Boehner, R-Ohio, House Minority Leader, is a Roman Catholic.
Conservative SCOTUS justices John Roberts, Samuel Alito, John Scalia, and Clarence Thomas are all Roman Catholics.
Conservative ethicist Robert George of Princeton is a Roman Catholic
Conservative natural-law scholar J Budszizewski of Texas is a Roman Catholic
Do you want me to keep going?
One more thing. Are you aware that the victims went to the police (AFAIK, they did so at the time, not when they turned 28), and the police and the DA refused to prosecute?
Is she “aware”? BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ping to post 3
Campion:
And if the Supreme Court overturns Obamacare for usurping State power, etc, it will be the 4 Catholics you mentioned along with another Catholic, A. Kennedy, who will overturn it. So what many FR Protestants hate or perhaps dislike {i.e. Catholics and the Catholic Church} will be the ones protecting states from an over-reaching Federal Government.
Where, exactly, are these "Romanist pedophile camps" located?
You wrote:
“What’s troubling is that you would think that this would energize Romanists to reform their Church...”
The cases in question are DECADES old. Reform has already happened in the US.
“...but instead we read all kinds of deluded platitudes on how these priest scandals are somehow an attack on the Roman Church by those outside the Church, written with an ignoble ignorance to the actual problem.”
Actually there’s none of that at all. No one is saying the “priest scandals” are an attack on the Church. What is an attack is when decades old cases are worked up into scandals for no reason other than attacking the pope and the Church. Remember, people are DELIBERATELY misreporting the facts about the cases in question. You don’t think that matters? No, I guess anti-Catholics don’t care about facts to begin with.
I guess that would depend on how you define conservative. If the goal is to conserve classical liberalism then the only conservative on your list is Clarence Thomas who was not raised Catholic.
Robert George is the main author of the anti-liberty Manhattan Declaration. That too many Protestants bought into it’s false premises does not mitigate against the fact that the document is undergirded by Romanist ideals of Church authority over society.
So far you have one conservative.
Thomas was raised as a Catholic: http://www.adherents.com/people/pt/Clarence_Thomas.html
“Consider this: Remember when the Clinton thugs blew up a small compound because it’s leader was a pedophile? Now we have even more hardened Secularists in charge who would no doubt love to destroy any Christian denomination that does not ascribe to a watered down liberal pantheistic version of Christianity.
If the government used the justification that children were being harmed to attack the Branch Davidians, and I believe the same justification was used against the Mormons in Texas, then what’s stopping the government from shutting down Romanist pedophile camps...”
Precedent point well taken, but don’t through the Baby out with the bathwater.
You wrote:
“I’m not surprised you’re comfortable in your deluded state of mind rationalizing away the problem...”
I have never been deluded. It is not in my nature. I also NEVER, EVER, even once, rationalized “away the problem”. What you’re posting there is simply a flat out lie about my character. I defy you to show any evidence to bolster your claims.
“...as mere past tense events ignorantly content that the current state of affairs is free from these scandals.”
The two cases in question actually happened DECADES ago. Even the last detail of one case is given as happening in 1996. That’s 14 years ago. If 55, more than 30, and 14 years ago is not past tense, then what is?
“The delusion helps you hang on to your false beliefs.”
I have no delusions. I have no false beliefs. What you have is a habit of posting slanderous things against those who demand evidence from you. Time to post some evidence. Prove your claim against me. I’ll even let slide the clear violation of the board rules on your part (supposed reading of minds). Since you’re an anti-Catholic I wouldn’t expect the Mod to do anything about it anyway.
If you have any honor, you will prove your claim against me. Do you?
Thanks for posting the link. Looks like Thomas is Episcopalian instead of Romanist. Campion is back to zero.
Thomas is Catholic. He returned to the Catholic faith in 1991. He has spoken about this in the past. http://www.adherents.com/adh_sc.html
I'm not following your point. What baby is being thrown out?
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