Even the founding fathers, and everyone who has sacrificed for our country and our freedom. None, no one, ever has sacrificed anything except for their own selfish interest.
"… see them only as fake, pretentious and hypocritical - because they pretend to realize that being humans requires more being than the lowly pleasure-seeking animals we ourselves have chosen to be…"
It's better to be successful at what you can be than to be a failure trying to be that which you can't be.
You can't be more than an animal?
This is your definition of humanity: trying to be all that you can't be?
Well at least trying to be more than the least you can be. Your view of your self is so low it's depressing.
Why should what we value the most give us displeasure?
Even if all you care about is yourself, you will lose that too, eventually. Pain and pleasure, love and suffering are a package deal. The only way to avoid it is to not care about anything or anyone.
I am failure as a masochist.
A masochist likes pain, humans realize that it sometimes is the price of caring.
How did you get to equate pain with truth?
It isn't equal, it comes with it. You can avoid it, ignore it, pretend you are too smart to believe it, but that has its own price.
No, just what God had made me.
Your view of your self is so low it's depressing
How haughty of you.
Even if all you care about is yourself, you will lose that too, eventually.
And even if you pretend to care for the whole world you will too.
Pain and pleasure, love and suffering are a package deal.
It's part of reality, but they don't have to be fifty-fifty, nor am I under any obligation to desire pain and suffering in order to be human.
The only way to avoid it is to not care about anything or anyone.
That doesn't mean you have to desire pain and suffering. And, yes, normal human desire is to avoid them as much as possible because they are "feel bad."
A masochist likes pain, humans realize that it sometimes is the price of caring
[pain = truth] It isn't equal, it comes with it.
It does? God is pain and suffering then? And here I thought God was comfort and hope...
You can avoid it, ignore it, pretend you are too smart to believe it, but that has its own price.
I don't know about you, but I prefer bargains. You may desire to pay the full price. I suppose that's a form of "feels good" too. :)