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To: kosta50
>>hurts them

still a perceived "feel-good"

No, hurts. Not perceived feel good, hurts. You can't define something as its opposite.

And no, not because it hurts, but in spite of it hurting.

Hypothetically, would you still care for your children if it brought you nothing pleasurable?

314 posted on 04/25/2010 11:24:52 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
You can't define something as its opposite.

Really? Why don't you ask a masochist what's so great about hanging on meat hooks?

And no, not because it hurts, but in spite of it hurting

You are making things up. Masochists crave pain because it gives them pleasure. In the end if something is perceived as "feels good" it's "feels good" whether it's pain or not.

Hypothetically, would you still care for your children if it brought you nothing pleasurable?

No I wouldn't. I am not a masochist. Love is a two-way street in my world. Apparently not in yours. Why feed the dog who bites you? That's stupid and masochistic in my book.

317 posted on 04/25/2010 11:42:06 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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