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To: kosta50

You cannot, at least logically, prove your argument by defining thus:

Everything we choose on our own (not coerced) is a “feels good.”

Your argument is an attempt to define away any value except feels good. You can say you don’t have any other values, but you can’t re-define: choice = “feels good”.

Sorry.


325 posted on 04/28/2010 2:40:03 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
Experimental psychology has shown that people and animals choose what is perceived as rewarding. We set our goals as rewards. Our desires are based on what feels good. I know you live in denial about this, but the statistically "normal" (those within two standard deviations) do not follow, do or pursue things that are perceived as hurtful, damaging or deleterious.

yes, we do have other values. They either make us avoid things or ignore them. They are not on our free will repertoire.

327 posted on 04/28/2010 3:48:32 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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