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Sex abuse lawsuit names San Antonio archdiocese
Associated Press ^ | 4-8-10 | Michelle Roberts

Posted on 04/08/2010 11:36:45 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg

A West Texas teen filed a lawsuit Thursday against the Archdiocese of San Antonio and Archbishop Jose Gomez alleging repeated sexual assaults by a parish priest, who he says the church's leadership should have known was abusive.

The allegations came just days after Gomez was named to a high-profile post leading the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, where he is scheduled to be formally introduced to parishioners in May.

The lawsuit accuses the Rev. John M. Fiala of repeatedly sexually assaulting the teen, including twice forcing him to have sex at gunpoint when Fiala was the pastor at Sacred Heart of Mary Parish in the remote community of Rocksprings. The lawsuit alleges the incidents occurred in 2007 and 2008, during Gomez's tenure overseeing a swath of south and west Texas.

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: freformed; homosexualagenda; witchhunt
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To: terycarl

“which of the approximately 20,000 “correct” denominations do you belong???”

All of them.


101 posted on 04/10/2010 7:33:44 AM PDT by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Probably because the victim knew he would be excommunicated if he went to the police with his complaints."

This implies that you know nothing of the concept or process of excommunication.

102 posted on 04/10/2010 8:08:52 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Not only are the victims not believed when they come forward (just read some of these skeptical comments) but we now understand that according to the Vatican rules and regulations and reiterated by Ratzinger in his job as Chief Inquisitor, a victim may not go public with his accusation against a priest until 10 years after he reaches the age of 18, under penalty of excommunication."

That is a lie.

103 posted on 04/10/2010 8:10:17 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

The Guardian? Really, ReallY? Is there no cess pool that you will not cite so long as it supports your hatred of the Catholic Church? The Guardian? Really?


104 posted on 04/10/2010 8:12:05 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
That's right. Shoot the messenger. You guys go so far as to trash John Allen, a major RC apologist and official biographer of Ratzinger. lol.

There's very little hope for any change for the better in the RCC when ears are dull and eyes remain closed.

As God wills.

" For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them." -- Matthew 13:16

105 posted on 04/10/2010 9:40:57 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Natural Law
No, that is not a lie. It is in black and white in Vatican correspondence.

But the RCC has always had a problem with the printed word, so Rome's lack of understanding here is no real surprise.

106 posted on 04/10/2010 9:43:15 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: dsc
The minor victim is not required to remain silent

You need to read what your church believes and expects you to believe.

From CRIMEN SOLLICITATIONIS

13. The oath of keeping the secret must be given in these cases also by the accusers or these denouncing [the priest] and the witnesses.

107 posted on 04/10/2010 10:28:01 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: DBeers
The fact your post was deleted should give you a hint that your posts are often against the rules of the FR religion forum.

But as illustrated so many times, Roman Catholics have a problem understanding the written word.

108 posted on 04/10/2010 10:31:25 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“But as illustrated so many times, Roman Catholics have a problem understanding the written word.”

This is just a sort of catch-all remark that doesn’t hold up to truth.

Catholics on these threads are very capable of understanding the written word.

And Catholics on this forum comprise only a fragment of the many Catholics “out there” who have neither the time nor the inclination to be posting and reading on forums like this. In that number there are plenty of Catholics who don’t have this “problem” you have cited.

I’m also convinced that there are quite a good number of lurking Catholics here on this forum who also have no such problem.


109 posted on 04/10/2010 10:41:02 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Running On Empty
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God" -- Exodus 20:4-5


110 posted on 04/10/2010 11:16:11 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The war is largely an internal struggle against sin, externally it involves being Christlike in order to bring others to Him.

It's really fascinating that some Roman Catholic apologists are more concerned about my motives than the motives of pedophile priests.

I'm a pretty good multi-tasker; I can do both with relative ease, I suspect most of us can do the same.

111 posted on 04/10/2010 12:51:54 PM PDT by conservonator (Former government employee - USMC)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"No, that is not a lie."

That is a feeble as Clinton's definition of the word "is". It is the product of a Rohrshock analysis done you you of the content of some letters. With all of the objectivity permitted by your conditioning and prejudice you have incorrectly seen what is not there jumped to an incorrect conclusion.

112 posted on 04/10/2010 1:00:40 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"You need to read what your church believes and expects you to believe."

You need to read all of the documentation instead of stopping when you reach an incorrect conclusion. I have provided you full documentation and exculpatory information at least a half a dozen times. That you continue to ignore that and persist in offering the same falsehoods demonstrates you are not motivated by revealing the truth, but instead denigrating Christ's Church. One can only wonder at your motives and strive not to assign evil intentions.

113 posted on 04/10/2010 1:04:50 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Running On Empty; Dr. Eckleburg
"This is just a sort of catch-all remark that doesn’t hold up to truth."

It is beyond ironic that her attempts to read the minds of Catholics is itself against the rules of this forum.

114 posted on 04/10/2010 1:06:52 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I see no reason for this post/Scriptural quote.


115 posted on 04/10/2010 4:50:08 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The fact your post was deleted should give you a hint that your posts are often against the rules of the FR religion forum.

But as illustrated so many times, Roman Catholics have a problem understanding the written word.

Just quoting this for posterity as it exactly shows both your motivation and your method...

116 posted on 04/10/2010 5:35:28 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: RobbyS

you don’t think its about justice for the victim?


117 posted on 04/10/2010 5:40:16 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: RobbyS

“Statutes of limitations are there for a reason .... “

And many states are change their statutes to allow a victim of child abuse to file charges at any time after the abuse with unlimited timeframes citing the Catholic Church as the reason why they are changing them.

AZ just recently did.


118 posted on 04/10/2010 5:43:09 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Campion

did you read the article? it stated the priests threatened them if they told anyone at the time of the abuse


119 posted on 04/10/2010 6:05:44 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

and over two billion worldwide in settlements.... lots and lots of $ from the collection plate


120 posted on 04/10/2010 6:11:38 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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