Posted on 04/19/2010 11:45:07 AM PDT by TaraP
>But the 7-year deal has not been announced, and most
>likely, not finalized yet.
But would it be a “7 year deal” or an eternal deal, which will be broken 3.5 years later, and then 3.5 years after that Christ cometh?
One things for sure, the love of men has grown cold.
We just can’t know until that man is revealed. That being said, one can certainly see this is a constant issue and we are building towards that day.
OK. Lets muddy the waters. :^)
Obama was born a citizen of England (Colonial Kenyans were citizens of the crown). So technically he is from the european union. And yet he's not one of the ten. Hmmmmm.
Preterist.
And don’t forget the (half British) king of Jordan!
You originally emphasised the need for a literal interpretation when you said:
Many students of bible prophecy have missed the signing of the 7 year peace treaty in Israel simply because they have not taken God's word literally
Please explain how a "flood of light" makes more sense from the standpoint of a literal interpretation than a "flood of water".
Daniel 9:26, 'And after sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for himself: And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end shall be with a flood, and until the end of the war desolations are determined.When taking up a literal interpretation, one must not arbitrarily pick and choose when to interpret literally and when to interpret figuratively. The standard of interpretation must be consistent throughout the bible.
Full or partial?
We know that not only can human governments not restrain Satan, there is no angel who is more powerful in the angelic hierarchy than Satan so it can't be Michael who has been restraining Satan all these thousands of years, and it only takes a cursory glance at the front page of any newspaper to see that not only can America not restrain Satan, America is lurching further and further away from God with each passing day.
The Scripture doesn't give any hint at all of any person who has the power to control Satan other than God. This, along with the fact that every believer in Christ receives the Holy Spirit at the moment he or she accepts Christ as Savior leads many to believe that the "One Who restrains" in 2 Thessalonians can only be the Holy Spirit.
Unreadable.
Matthew 24:22
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
Which I have heard has to do with Nuclear War, before a Nuclear Bomb can be made and used on any Nations, Jesus will cut those days in half...
ping & bump for later read
I have heard it argued different ways by clergy I respect, but I tend to lean to the belief that there will be some who come to know Christ during those seven years and will gain understanding of what is happening, but that conversion Will result in persecution and even death.
By the way, so far you are lucky. Usually when a thread starts on the end-times or the Rapture - out come the doubters who are too eager to share their higher knowledge on us, or those who are so dead sure their scenario for the end-times is the only scenario they'll you call you a heretic if you differ with them. It gets ugly.
Daniel 9:26 speaks of the Messiah being cut off - a reference which has been generally taken to mean Jesus’ death for the sins of the world.
Isaiah 53:8 likewise speaks of the suffering Messiah being cut off from the land of life.
Some speculate that that happens right after the Church is raptured to Heaven.
Interesting set of conjectures and interpretations . . . to a point.
I don’t buy it.
I think the author is shoehorning into his notions a lot that just does not fit.
I remain utterly convinced that the
ABOMINATION THAT MAKES DESOLATE
is the AntiChrist setting up his image in the yet to be built 3rd Jewish Temple. . . . at the 3.5 year mark of the 7 year TRIBULATION period of the END TIMES.
Things are rushing toward Armageddon at a faster and faster pace.
There is no need to concoct unfitting notions together in jury-rigged constructions on END TIMES reailties. Such events will unfold in God’s time and that quite fast enough, thank you very much!
And, every detail of Scripture will be fulfilled to the letter without having to stretch conjectures to the point of breaking all reason and logic.
First with ST? SomeThing???
Naw, I miss a lot.
Thanks for your kind words.
I just don’t find this convincing. Not at all.
Sorry, Genoa, the last paragraph was meant for TaraP
“But how do people get saved during the following period?”
I have heard it argued different ways by clergy I respect, but I tend to lean to the belief that there will be some who come to know Christ during those seven years and will gain understanding of what is happening, but that conversion Will result in persecution and even death.
TaraP - By the way, so far you are lucky. Usually when a thread starts on the end-times or the Rapture - out come the doubters who are too eager to share their higher knowledge on us, or those who are so dead sure their scenario for the end-times is the only scenario they’ll you call you a heretic if you differ with them. It gets ugly.
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